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Two more music download services

Written by James Delahunty (Google+) @ 01 Sep 2005 13:34 User comments (14)

Two more music download services It's now time to add two more big names to the list of firms offering music download services. This time it is two High Street music stores from the UK, HMV and Virgin. Their aim is to take a slice out of the ever-growing market for downloaded digital content. However, it must seem strange to both these companies when their biggest challenge is with software companies like Apple and Microsoft who just managed to get into the download business before them.
While now music downloads in the UK account for just 2% of all music sales (5% worldwide) the coming years, according to analysts, will show the rise of digital purchases above purchases of a physical product. These two latest services are going down the same road as Napster with a music subscription service. As long as customers keep the monthly fee coming, they have access to over one million tracks.

Music can be stored on compatible portable digital music players but will cease to work if the monthly fee disappears. The subscription fees will be 14.99 but Virgin is also offering a 9.99 a month package for people who will not be storing music on portable players. An additional fee is required to hold onto tracks permanently. This will be around 79p but HMV is offering to allow record labels to se cheaper prices for new artists to help promote them.

"I think in time the public will realise that there is a vast choice available to them," HMV spokesman Gennaro Castaldo said. "The iPod has been so successful because it is a fashion item as much as anything else, but fashions tend to change in time." HMV also hopes to educate more people on how to download music. Computers will be installed in 200 HMV stores worldwide where staff will show people how to download music.

This help is aimed at women and older people mostly, whereas it's not particularly set up for younger male consumers. "Record stores have generally been a bit of a male preserve," an HMV spokesman said. "When more women are comfortable with downloading they may find it less intimidating to do that on their own computers, rather than go into a record store." Virgin will launch its music download service tomorrow, and HMV next Monday.

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14 user comments

12.9.2005 2:36

nice ideas. i would join, because 9.99 is nothing but i hate the copy protection. i want to shift them where & when i want. do these new services have the same copy protect or is that a silly question?

22.9.2005 2:37

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Computers will be installed in 200 HMV stores worldwide where staff will show people how to download music.
wouldnt it be funny if they were hacked and spammed with p2p proggys lol

32.9.2005 11:56
taclark
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Along the same lines as benjers . . . are there any legal download sites that will let me buy popular music in an MP3 format that I can then burn onto my own CDs? I have no use for the formats that tie your hands such as apple's music for ipods or napster, and would never pay for music with such restrictions.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 02 Sep 2005 @ 16:06

42.9.2005 23:05
duckNrun
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allofmp3.com provides music downloads in mp3 format starting at 192 kbps. They also have songs that are available at cda quality. Prices start at around 10 CENTS per track and complete CD's for around $1.30 check them out. I dont use them but it looks interesting.

53.9.2005 1:40

its a fraud. they've already been busted by the RIAA

63.9.2005 4:21

is Allofmp3 a fraud? different countries have different laws, the Spanish based Weblisten (which was a lot like Allofmo3) closed down in July 2005, but to my knowledge no legal action was taken to sue for fraud. I live in Holland and use Allofmp3, if I lived in the USA, i dont think i would dare using it. Anyway it is not busted yet :-) A good American legal site is emusic ( not for Top 40 stuff): http://www.emusic.com costs are 0.25 cents per song

73.9.2005 4:51
duckNrun
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actually the RIAA disaproves of the service and would prefer it does not exist but in russia the site is legal for now. The Russian version of the RIAA (ROMS) is the same as the British's (BPI). ROMS is licensed to sell the copyrighted material, they have granted/sold a right to allofmp3.com and in Russia the law does not address the downloading of copyrighted music (which is legal here as well as long as the site doing the selling has a legal right to distribute said copyrighted material). Previously, I have offered the argument that using this service may be illegal in particular countries as a form of 'possession of stolen goods' or even by the example of how certain types of porn are legal elsewhere but once put in a computer in, say, the U.S become illegal due to local laws. However, upon review of U.S copyright law it appears that because this site is in Russia where it is legal, and the person downloading the material is using it only for personal, private use (besides the fact that said site is licensed under the distributive organization that exists in Russian juristiction) under CURRENT U.S copyright laws the use of this site is considered legal. The site owners state in an interview that they do not know how the site interacts with foreign laws because it was intended ONLY for russian citizens (the site contains an English version, he says, because some of it's Russian users prefer to do transactions in English- lol) Links/Info: In February of 2005 C/Net posted an article that stated that Russian Cops were cracking down on the site: http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5586034.html but as you can see it is now 6 + months l ater and the site remains active in Russia. Mar 6th 2005 on Gizmodo http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/allofmp3com-dodges-... states that the Russian D.A refuses to charge allofmp3.com with a crime because while Russian law says pirating physical goods is illegal the law does not treat downloaded data as a physical good...hence a loophole.. hence the 'legality' of the site. This is echoed by: http://moskalyuk.com/blog/allofmp3com-escapes-criminal-lawsuit-fo... However Slate Magazine tends to agree with my origional argument against the site http://slate.msn.com/id/2115868/ but follows up to agree with Gizmodo that in Russia anyways nothing will probably happen to the site. Most importantly, US Copyright law... I am out of time (have to go to doctors-- and yes my doctors are open on Saturday! lol) so I cannot track this assumingly most important link down (yet again) for you (at least not now) but everyone here knows how to google so... anyways, sorry for the long winded post. I am just a believer of backing up my statements with the 'proof' or at least the references to them.

83.9.2005 9:11

I use "Total Recorder" by Highcriteria, ( http://www.highcriteria.com/ ), combined with a monthly fee music download service. Using this software with a monthly fee service may solve some of your problems. The software works great, but it takes a little more time than purchasing a download. The software is trial, (trial has beep every minute to encourage purchasing for $11.99.) Check it out.

93.9.2005 9:23
duckNrun
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here's one from Wired http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61598,00.html?tw=newsletter_topstories_html It concerns buying or downloading dvd's from foriegn companies. While not the same format it is the same issue. There is pretty good comments in there about the 'fair use' and copyright compliance associated with 'outsourcing' (lol) your music purchases. heheeh...I've just coined a phrase...really should get this next concept to the news media lol I'm not illegaly downloading...I'm outsourcing my purchase (just like big companies outsource our jobs! I mean if they can outsource my job why can't I outsource theirs?)

1010.9.2005 22:29

Thanks for your posts duckNrun! and to rick_la : there are lots of devices to capture audio (and video)I bought my Total Recorder 5 years ago: great fun! another way to get music is to download archived files. Here is a link to the files of freeform radiostation WFMU : http://archive.wfmu.org:5555/archive/ You will have to figure out abreviations for yourself ( DS is Downtown Soulville, GK is Greasy Kids Stuff) Archived material in .rm, latest program also in mp3

1113.9.2005 9:36

Hey, nitpicker, you mention capturing video. Although I am able to record video through the tuner in my PC, I would appreciate any info on a way to capture video as it is playing on my DVD drive (similar to Total Recorder). I came across an extremely "stubborn" DVD, and I have thrown every software I have found at it with no success. Any suggestions?

1214.9.2005 6:23

let me start with something i DO know: I should not reply to your Q here (Afterdawn has a great Forums section!) Anyway, do you mean your DVD does not play in your standalone, but does play on your computer? And DVD Decrypter/ DVD Shrink gives an error message/crashes when copying your faulty DVD to your haed disc? Then check out the fora! For capturing stuff on your screen : http://applian.com/replay-screencast/ http://www.deskshare.com/msr.aspx

1314.9.2005 15:06

Thanks nitpicker for the links. I just signed up with afterdawn.com and need to learn the ropes.

1427.4.2007 16:07
exiled1
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I use a company that allows you to burn cd's, dvd's and even supply the programs to do it. They have music, movies, videos, just about anything you could want. The downloads are fast--they were rated #1 by a lot of companies--I have been happy with them:


UnlimitedDownloadCenter

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