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MPAA piracy claims amount to $2,000 per pirate

Written by Rich Fiscus (Google+) @ 07 Sep 2011 15:59 User comments (20)

MPAA piracy claims amount to $2,000 per pirate Based on the latest MPAA claims, every person in the US who downloaded a movie illegally last year kept an average of $2,000 out of the economy.
That figure is based on claims from an infographic they released recently, suggesting illegal downloading in the US cost removed $58 billion from the economy.

The most obvious problem with their figures is the claim that money is being removed from the economy. In order for that to be true, money which would otherwise have been spent on movies can not be spent on anything else.

So why $2,000? It all comes down to simple math.

First they start with a figure of 29 million Americans downloading illegally.

Then they give a total figure of $58 billion lost.

$58 billion divided by 29 million people comes out to $2,000 per person. If you assume DVDs cost an average of $10 each, that means each one would have purchased 200 discs last year.

Just to put the total in perspective, in 2010 total box office receipts for the US and Canada combined totaled $10.6 billion. DVD & Blu-ray sales and rental combined with online video accounted for another $18.8 billion.

Even if you assume no one in Canada goes to the movies, that would mean the movie industry in America should have made twice as much money last year.

It shouldn't come as any surprise that MPAA piracy numbers are ridiculous, but when you put it into perspective it's still pretty stunning to see just how big their numbers are.

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17.9.2011 16:16

This is utter BS from the MPAA! How do they know 29 million people download illegally?? Those who do pirate movies, software, etc., from the net probably wouldn't buy the product anyway. I know I rent all of my movies from Netflix or stream from their website and Hulu Plus. Why the hell would I buy a DVD or a Blu-Ray or pirate it? I'm not in love with any particular movie to buy the god damn thing, let alone 200 of them in a year. I guess those who do download these things should feel guilty and cough up $$ to the MPAA, that way they will sleep better at night.............NOT!! "F" the MPAA and rest of the greedy studios!

27.9.2011 17:31

OK first wtf!!!!!! from what i found out this is how many movies that were released in theaters last year could be wrong so $2000 divided by $15 dollars (rounded up) is (rounded up)134 movies that each of us should of gone to the theater see ...or(at $30) bought 66 blu ray movies ...or(at $20) 100 dvd movies now be honest look through the list and post how many movies peaked your interest that you would have gone to the theater to see and how many you bought on blu-ray or DVD i'm guessing there is about 10 movies that peaked your interest to see in a theater and 20 that peaked your interest from a combined theater viewing that you wanted to buy and just wanting to buy because of a trailer only

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"127 Hours"
"8: Mormon Proposition"
"The A-Team"
"Accidents Happen"
"Acts Of Violence"
"After Dark Horrorfest 4"
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"Ahead Of Time"
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"Celine: The Movie"
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"Charlie St. Cloud"
"Chloe"
"The Chronicles Of Narnia 3"
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"The City Of Your Final Destination"
"Clash Of The Titans 2010"
"Clear Blue Tuesday"

"Client 9"
"Coco Chanel & Igor Stravinsky"
"Colin Fitz Lives"
"The Complete Metropolis"
"The Concert"
"Conviction"
"Cop Out"
"Countdown To Zero"

"Country Strong"
"The Crazies"
"Crazy"
"Crazy On The Outside"
"Creation"
"Cropsey"
"Cyrus"
"Date Night"

"Daybreakers"
"Dear John"
"Deadfall Trail"
"Death At A Funeral"
"Defendor"
"Despicable Me"
"Devil"
"Diary Of A Wimpy Kid"
"Dinner For Schmucks"
"Disappearance Of Alice Creed"
"Due Date"
"Easy A"
"Eat Pray Love"
"Eclipse"
"The Eclipse"
"Edge Of Darkness"
"Exit Through The Gift Shop"
"Expecting Mary"
"The Expendables"
"Extraordinary Measures"
"Fair Game"
"Farewell"
"Faster"
"The Fighter"
"A Film Unfinished"
"Finding Bliss"
"Flipped"
"Floored"

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"Frankie & Alice"
"Freakonomics"
"The Freebie"
"From Paris With Love"
"Fruit Fly"
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"Get Him To The Greek"
"Get Low"
"The Ghost Writer"
"The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo"
"The Girl Who Played With Fire"
"Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest"
"Godspeed"
"Going The Distance"
"The Good Heart"
"The Graves"
"Grease Sing-A-Long"
"Great Directors"
"The Greatest"
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"Green Zone"
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"Handsome Harry"
"Happiness Runs"
"Happy Tears"
"Happy Thank You More Please"
"Harry Brown"
"Harry Potter 7: Part 1"
"Hatchet 2"
"Heartbreaker"

"Hereafter"
"Here And There"
"Hey Watch This"
"Holy Rollers"
"Hot Tub Time Machine"
"How Do You Know"
"Howl"
"How To Train Your Dragon"
"Hubble 3D"
"I Am Comic"
"I Am Love"

"The Illusionist"
"I Love You Phillip Morris"
"I'm Still Here"
"I Spit On Your Grave"
"Inception"
"In My Sleep"
"Inside Job"
"Iron Man 2"
"Is It Just Me?"
"It's Kind Of A Funny Story"
"Jackass 3 in 3D"
"Jack Goes Boating"

"Jim"
"Joan Rivers"
"John Rabe"
"Jolene"
"Jonah Hex"
"The Joneses"
"Just Wright"
"Kalamity"
"The Karate Kid 2010"
"Kick Ass"
"The Kids Are All Right"
"The Killer Inside Me"
"Killers"
"The Killing Jar"
"Kings Of The Evening"
"The King's Speech"
"Kisses"
"Kites"
"Knight & Day"
"La Mission"
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"The Last Airbender"
"The Last Exorcism"
"The Last Play At Shea"

"The Last Rites Of Ransom Pride"
"The Last Song"
"Last Train Home"
"The Law"

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"Leaving"
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"Legendary"
"The Legend Of Pale Male"
"Legend Of The Guardians"
"Legion"
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"Life As We Know It"
"Life During Wartime"
"Lightkeepers"
"Like Dandelion Dust"
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"The Losers"
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"Louis: A Silent Film"
"Love And Other Drugs"
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"MacGruber"
"Machete"
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"Monsters"
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"Multiple Sarcasms"
"My Boyfriend's Girlfriend"
"My Dog Tulip"
"My Name Is Khan"
"My Soul To Take 3D"

"My Suicide"
"Nanny McPhee 2"
"Neil Young: Trunk Show"
"Nenette"
"Never Let Me Go"
"The Next Three Days"
"A Nightmare On Elm Street 2010"
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"The Nutcracker 3D"
"Oceans"
"Ondine"
"OSS 117: Lost In Rio"
"The Other Guys"
"The Oxford Murders"
"Our Family Wedding"
"Paper Man"
"Paranormal Activity 2"
"Patrik Age 1.5"
"Percy Jackson"
"The Perfect Game"
"Phish 3D"
"Piranha 3D"
"Please Give"
"Predators"
"Prince Of Broadway"
"Prince of Persia: Sands of Time"
"Princess Kaiulani"
"Pyaar Impossible"

"Queen Of The Lot"
"Rabbit Hole"

"Race To Nowhere"
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37.9.2011 17:54

"Fuck", what aload of shit films. Congratulations for typing them out and saving me so much time trying to watch all that crap. How long would it take to watch and download that?

47.9.2011 17:56

ok from this list and from what i know this is how many movies i went to see last year
1.Iron Man 2
the next list is how many movies i bought on blu ray /dvd because of a trailer ive seen
1 Iron Man 2
2 The Book Of Eli
3 Cop Out
4 The Crazies
5 Daybreakers
6 Devil
7 The Expendables
8 Faster
9 The Girl Who Played With Fire
10 Hereafter
11 Hot Tub Time Machine
12 Jonah Hex
13 Knight & Day
14 The Last Exorcism
15 Legion
16 The Losers
17 Machete
18 A Nightmare On Elm Street 2010
19 Paranormal Activity 2
20 Percy Jackson
21 Predators
22 Repo Men
23 Resident Evil 4
24 Salt
25 Scott Pilgrim
26 Shutter Island
27 The Warrior's Way
28 The Wolfman
30 Bounty Hunter
31 Defendor
32 Hatchet 2
33 Inception
34 Kick Ass
ok so i was off on the how many i bought but this is proof(that i need a girlfriend and a life) but also not all movies released are meant to be seen or bought by everyone

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 07 Sep 2011 @ 18:16

57.9.2011 18:20

Great list... thanks... I knew I forgot a few. ;)
BTW:The Best? in no particular order

Black Swan
Bitch Slap
Sucker Punch

:D


Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?

67.9.2011 21:50

I think I might have seen about 6 movies from last year total.

It is amazing how people just burn their money when they pirate movies. You would think they would spend it in local stores, helping the economy more than any other form of spending. The really odd part? They burn $2000 every time they pirate a $20 movie. Crazy, huh? I knew pirates burned movies, but I didn't know they burned cash too.



78.9.2011 5:44

Comes from royalties and paying people etc.

The problem though that $2000 is based on a movie released also makes it's full production costs and also makes a profit.

Many movies released don't even make the production costs back and only a handful really make any profit.

@killerbug
If you add up the costs of the net connection plus the time spent downloading and the costs of HDDs and disks to burn off and stuff for a whole year you'd probably have spent more money than simply buying every movie at release.

88.9.2011 7:46

After final edit and viewing they have to choose put it in theaters ,vod, straight to DVD or tv, or shelf the movie ,it's getting the cost back first them profit the only movies I hear about sueing is the crap or borderline crap movies the good ones use the BL as a promotion I've seen both iron mans BL and still saw them
In theaters and bought them on disc because they are that good to me. I think it's crap that they sue and use projected profits that are guesstimation at best for movies that are not profitable at all by their standards the pirates are true unpaid critics and that scares the hell out of them because they can't pay them to say the movie is good an you should go see it

98.9.2011 11:39

Originally posted by xtago:
Comes from royalties and paying people etc.

The problem though that $2000 is based on a movie released also makes it's full production costs and also makes a profit.

Many movies released don't even make the production costs back and only a handful really make any profit.

@killerbug
If you add up the costs of the net connection plus the time spent downloading and the costs of HDDs and disks to burn off and stuff for a whole year you'd probably have spent more money than simply buying every movie at release.

I guess if you only paid for a net connection to strictly pirate movies, or if you went out and bought a hard drive just to store your pirated movies on, then maybe you'd kind of have a point.

108.9.2011 11:44

Quite honestly, any number, whether it be $2000, $4000, or $20 is complete BS. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I don't have an extra $.10 in my pocket. Every penny I've got goes into this economy. This is the most baseless figure I've ever seen.

At the very best it's suggesting that people who pirate movies are shelling out $2000 to overseas country's. Not really sure how that works out.

119.9.2011 2:23
llongtheD
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How else are they going to get ridiculous DRM laws passed. In the U.S. our politicians are bought and paid for, and are actually that stupid. They'll stand at the podium and lie for their handlers, excuse me, lobbyists.


If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.

129.9.2011 7:32

cost about $1000 for a decent pc capable of downloading movies.depending on what isp (and country) prices on internet connection change.a (overclocked) pentuim 3 or a pentium 4 is capable of backing dvds and changing (converting/encoding is the proper word i think) avi's to dvd.can pick up a 2nd hand pentium 4 for around $200.

as for $2000 on dvds i know someone who buys dvds original and they cost between 2 -5 for a dvd boxed set on amazon.com.he'd have to buy more than 4 sets a week at 5 a set to come close to spending $2000 on dvds.the dearest dvd ive brought in a shop was $21.98 and that was transformers 2 special addition in 2009.to come close to spending $2000 on dvds in shops you'd have to buy about 100 a year of the latest dvds.


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139.9.2011 8:30

Maybe the MPAA should try being a usenet provider!


--pcdtv--

149.9.2011 8:51

Originally posted by KillerBug:
I think I might have seen about 6 movies from last year total.

It is amazing how people just burn their money when they pirate movies. You would think they would spend it in local stores, helping the economy more than any other form of spending. The really odd part? They burn $2000 every time they pirate a $20 movie. Crazy, huh? I knew pirates burned movies, but I didn't know they burned cash too.

"They burn $2000 every time they pirate a $20 movie. Crazy, huh? I knew pirates burned movies, but I didn't know they burned cash too."

omg...that's why I got no dough left!! I thought the wife was dipping in my pockets every night.!So all I gotta do now is buy 2 grand's worth of movies every year and then I'll be RICH....
must keep this to myself or we'll all be doing it and then what will happen..???

159.9.2011 10:17

Any one swallowing a cent of this garbage is a shill.

169.9.2011 13:34

Of course, to their greedy infantile minds every download is a lost sale.

.....and naturally they get to pluck the number of downloads out of their a$$ & completely ignore the fact that a lot of us like to 'try before buying', so there are sales generated in there too.

Then there's the not so small point that if sharing really was stopped a lot of us (like me for one, and I am far from alone on this) would just go back to not buying at all, I'll watch it when it comes on TV (for free) or in the most rare of circumstances when I bother to go to the cinema.

All ways around they are onto a loser continuing with this stupidity.

But why would anyone be surprised by this ridiculous BS?
They already started trying to link terrorism & paedophilia to sharing.

But that's just it.
This is about sharing, which they are never going to discredit.
And they really can't stand that.


....oh and finally, getting lectured about what they guess is a stack of avoided & lost taxes from a business & bunch of corporations that are in many ways one f***ing massive tax-dodge is hilarious and utterly shameless.
The bare-faced cheek of these reptiles really is something.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 09 Sep 2011 @ 13:41

179.9.2011 19:10

Originally posted by xtago:
Comes from royalties and paying people etc.

The problem though that $2000 is based on a movie released also makes it's full production costs and also makes a profit.

Many movies released don't even make the production costs back and only a handful really make any profit.

@killerbug
If you add up the costs of the net connection plus the time spent downloading and the costs of HDDs and disks to burn off and stuff for a whole year you'd probably have spent more money than simply buying every movie at release.

How many people buy a computer for the sole reason to download? My guess, less than 3%. I've been in the tech business for 16 years and of all the reviews I've read and forums I have visited, I've yet to see a person say this computer was worth my 1000.00 because its great for d/l.

Processing video goes behind just burning dvds. There are many more that do it for school or business rather than bootlegging.

This is superman

1810.9.2011 18:49

I saw a couple of comments here that were rather disturbing. How could anyone even partially agree with the MPAA or RIAA? It's all about money for these clowns and always will be! They have no real ingenuity and this is due to the lack of oxygen in the bubble they exist in. I agree with the other 98% of the comments here! Where do they get these figures...oh as one member put it...pulled it out there A$$! Good stuff!


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1912.9.2011 1:51

Originally posted by xtago:
@killerbug
If you add up the costs of the net connection plus the time spent downloading and the costs of HDDs and disks to burn off and stuff for a whole year you'd probably have spent more money than simply buying every movie at release.

What if you already had a PC, and a netflix/bb/redbox account so the system isn't on and downloading 24/7? Even if you only wanted to get a handful of movies, piracy would be cheaper. If you actually wanted to get all the movies for the whole year (over 1000 releases so far in 2011), then piracy would be far, far, far cheaper.


2013.9.2011 22:37

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by xtago:
@killerbug
If you add up the costs of the net connection plus the time spent downloading and the costs of HDDs and disks to burn off and stuff for a whole year you'd probably have spent more money than simply buying every movie at release.

What if you already had a PC, and a netflix/bb/redbox account so the system isn't on and downloading 24/7? Even if you only wanted to get a handful of movies, piracy would be cheaper. If you actually wanted to get all the movies for the whole year (over 1000 releases so far in 2011), then piracy would be far, far, far cheaper.
Now that's just funny!

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