Pirate Party registered in UK

Oddly their website has been dead for months.. now all of a sudden they decide to appear again. Real pirates don't vanish off the face of the earth for over a year... I'm wary of these people.. There were posts on the PPI site last year asking whether the party was dead or not.. and it had no responses. Also their forums are still dead..(I'm a member and all there was happened to be thousands of spam posts before it went down as an unowned domain) so the party has no actual presence and doesn't look to get input from anybody.

http://www.pp-international.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=16

Take note of the big gap in activity. Looks very much like 3 or 4 people total to me.

They are too late to register for the next election anyway

http://www.pp-international.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23986

Missing a deadline.. very professional and on the ball guys. Looks like you need some people with a little experience of actually taking part in the real political process.

It's just a game, there's no way the Pirate Party could ever get elected, even with lots of members, professional opperation, and huge cashflow.

Originally posted by varnull:

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Oddly their website has been dead for months.. now all of a sudden they decide to appear again. Real pirates don't vanish off the face of the earth for over a year... I'm wary of these people.. There were posts on the PPI site last year asking whether the party was dead or not.. and it had no responses. Also their forums are still dead..(I'm a member and all there was happened to be thousands of spam posts before it went down as an unowned domain) so the party has no actual presence and doesn't look to get input from anybody.

http://www.pp-international.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=16

Take note of the big gap in activity. Looks very much like 3 or 4 people total to me.

They are too late to register for the next election anyway

http://www.pp-international.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23986

Missing a deadline.. very professional and on the ball guys. Looks like you need some people with a little experience of actually taking part in the real political process.

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I am sure it is a scam. However, it is a good idea. Too bad they aren't a bit more serious.

Rome wasnt built in a day as they say, at least the word is getting out, give them time !

Copy right needs to be made as simple as possible and that basically separates what the public dose with CP/IP in a non profit setting and what is done for profit. Obviously for profit needs that chain of command to sort the revenue stream to its proper owners.


This puts less restrictions on individual reviewers,bloggers, critics, fan sites and archive or other sites however the instant you try and make any money off it you become for profit and are beholdant to the the profit chain and the CP owners. Separate what is done for the sake of profit, what requires a profit to run(and thus is marginalized to the whims of the industry and what it will allow) and those that do not profit from it.

There are 2 separate issues here what can be sold and what can not be sold, by all means the profit streams should be protected however at the same time the public needs to be protected from abuse from above and the only way to do that is allow copy circumvention ,copying,back ups and personal archiving and file trading as long as its done in non profit settings. Look at the net 90% of file sharing sites are FOR PROFIT be it ad rev,donations or subscriptions they are beyond contempt.

However because the discussion is all or nothing my right vrs your right, my ideal vrs your ideal the power of near infinite lobbying organizations vrs the fickle interests of the public that allows patent trolls to propagate that changes the fundamentals of copy right to become a infinite right of the highest bidder. The quickest and most effective way to balance things out is to look to the individual.And since there are more consumers than creators and even less multi CP owners you have to default to the rights of the individual consumer.

I am pro file shearing ,with a huge caveat ,if the individual can manage the cost of shearing that file without making anything off it. If you place the burden of shearing on the public as a completely free user supported thing that can not trade money and then via world wide support and police it as such you would close down more than 50% of file shearing and make it something difficult to organize around thus making it a more personal and individual thing those who have the time and know how and money will do.