So bascially they're saying that the average person who gets their merchandise stolen by means of burglary, robery and home invasion etc. is less important than someone sharing files (movies) over the internet. He needs to remove his head from his a$$ imediately! This is exactly what I mean, they feel that someone getting robbed and ultimately traumatized from such an event is less important than an big exec company that makes billions of dollars.

damn that guy is an idiot. someone please tell him whats up.

Originally posted by svtstang:

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Wow that guy needs a reality check! Talk about a rich sob wanting to add another mil to his bank account, jeez he is ignorant for saying such a thing. Last time I checked, nobody get murdered while dl'ing the last Kelly Clarkson tune.....cant say the same about bank robberies, home theft, etc. Some people really just dont get it.

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Whoa, did you like... paraphrase that?!?? Awesome! xD

You can only count a loss if you had a chance to sell your product. If someone is never going to buy a movie then thats not loss because you never were going to sell that product. Also most movie downloads come from someone that has BOUGHT the dvd from the store and posted it for download, Now yes that is a loss only if my previous comment is not true to the individual that downloaded it and its not a total loss because you did sell at-least one copy (which we know they sold more). And one more thing how can you compare someone downloading a movie or anything to someone with a gun to there face? its just out right absurd.

Also If they had good movies then there wouldn't be any loses. And isn't Universal only releasing in DVD and HD DVD? Move over to Blu-ray and you might sell some of your crapy movies and shows

This is bullshit...

I would like to see him tell this to someone that losed a family member to one of the other crimes. Just goes to show that they are willing to give up a life for greed.

ah,yes the "OMG the market is changing we cant adapt,lets sue the consumer and tax the tech industry" spiel....

considering that 80%+ of that is padding to to bleed their case shows there out to protect them selfs from the changing market using the consumer as shields.

Well...how about murder, since we all know that fraud, robbery and alot of other crimes were listed, why didn't he just add murder to the list...i mean, if wants to act like a savior and everything.

Um, let me think, last I checked, piracy didn't lose people hundreds of thousands of dollars, only loss is for the corporate pigs, but, yeah, we know how ETHICAL they are...say enron, mci, and a slew of other companies.

You know what is funny...this dude is something else, Why on earth is he trying to make a name for himself?

I'll bet you $1mil that is someone broke into his house, robbed him, violated his family and shot the family dog, you know his punk @ss would be saying something TOTALLY different!

Just realized something...how am i going to know if a movie is good or not, without watching. last time i checked, you can get money back for seeing a movie, so in essence they will KEEP your money and you will watch a craptastic movie. cause we all know that previews don't mean snot...am i right? Oh and critics...they wouldn't know a good movie, if it landed in their lap and kicked them in the nuts, cause they are just paid under the table advertisement.

Originally posted by venomX05:

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Well...how about murder, since we all know that fraud, robbery and alot of other crimes were listed, why didn't he just add murder to the list...i mean, if wants to act like a savior and everything.

Um, let me think, last I checked, piracy didn't lose people hundreds of thousands of dollars, only loss is for the corporate pigs, but, yeah, we know how ETHICAL they are...say enron, mci, and a slew of other companies.

You know what is funny...this dude is something else, Why on earth is he trying to make a name for himself?

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its like they don't want us to criminalize criminal's because it undercuts a part of the populace they can sale too.
LOL

Global, corporate fraud..banking cartels..the war in Iraq. How much have they stole from the tax payer?

Nah, I guess we shouldn't be focusing on that, eh(!). Ooh let's 'invade' everyone's privacy under yet another false 'premise' and make sure they're only speaking agreeable views - these are criminals, ya know..and there's a lot of money to be made getting in on the act.

Maybe Cotton should also address the growing influence of corporate policy over public affairs. Maybe then we wouldn't have wars and what some people see as the beginning of the end: a Big Brother state, with the media making an absolute killing out of that transformation.

Originally posted by svtstang:

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I always tried to rationalize how these agencies came to such extravagent figures.....here is something the MPAA/RIAA doesnt take into account.

Most people that pirate WILL NOT BUY THE MEDIA REGARDLESS, so counting that as a loss is illogical. I know of some of you may not agree, but imo the majority of pirates take what they can get for free, with no intetion to purchase the media in question.

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I agree Stang. That's been my point for years. They are putting a price on what they think their crap is worth. Next year, they will double the price of DVD's and CD's, then claim that piracy has cost them twice as much as the previous year, just to bump up the estimate by a few more billion $$$. I only buy what I absolutely like and believe is worth it.

If my grandmother is mugged and killed, will Sony give me a free movie as a consolation?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ass-hat

This is excatly what a person like Rick Cotton is.

Sometimes you really gotta wonder why these kind of people are
even allowed to speak.
VenomX05 hit it on the head, if someone broke into his house and
violated his family and stole his property, (asshat) cotton would change his tune pretty quickly.
Maybe his parents should have slaped him upside the head a little more
often as a kid, Then he probaly would have more sense.

Peace all

How much do these crybabies lose; when we borrow FREE books, CDs and DVDs from the public library? How much do they lose; when we sell our used copyrighted merchandise on craigslist, at the flea market or at a garage sale?

People who buy our used items are not buying brand new copies from the retail stores or paying royalties to the MPAA and RIAA again. Thats a lot of money that they never see and we aren't even talking about thieves here...

that is sone dumb shit......honestly i mean i could kill 30 ppl and get lets say 12 yers in prison lol and i download a spiderman 3 i get 45 yers .....hmmmm yeh gotta agree wif svtstang

Greed, graft and corruption seems to have invaded every aspect of our lives.

We don't owe these guys a living. And, we are not about to pay for a special police force to enforce their "intellectual rights." If they are making money let 'em spend some of it to protect their interests.

I am just not generous enough to guarantee them a living, nor force that on my fellow taxpayers ...

Damn bums run this country!

To hear these greedy swines swines at the RIAA talk you would think that Piracy is worse than everything including mugging, selling fake medicines or crack cocaine, child abuse and terrorism. Most of the the Hollywood movies and much of the Music biz stuff is crap anyway and i certainly wouldnt download them. If all this means that there will be a lot of redundancies amongst these over fed execs than bring it on I say.

I agree with most of the comments. The industry figures are nonsense and deal with the billions of dollars of illegal sales in China where mass commercial pirating is a way of life. What does the industry propose sending the local police dept to Bejing to arrest the counterfeiters who seem to be on every street corner. The truth is that the damn industry can't touch the real problem so it puts out outlandish numbers and pretend they have something to do with US piracy. As a famous WWII general once said "Nuts". Of course if the clowns in the media industry really cared about lost dollars they would be trying to stop the idiocy in Iraq which I think has topped the 300 billion dollar mark and has accomplished nothing except kill a lot of innocent civilians and thousands of good Americans while destabilizing the middle east. Wait ... a revelation just came to me...George Bush must be leading the media people.. it's the only way they could be that screwed up and not be aware of it or if they were, not to admit to it.

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According to NBC/Universal general counsel Rick Cotton, today's society is wasting its time battling crimes such as home burglary, bank robbery and fraud. The incredible statement was made to suggest that more effort should be put in to battling piracy due to the financial damage it does to the entertainment industry.

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This guy needs to get his priorities right. I agree they need to get help on Online crime but they really do need to keep their focus on the old fashion crimes cause they hurt individuals more than the others do as in the online crimes hurt corporations not the average battler.

we seem to over emphersize our need for money this is provern day in and day out by the way big corprate screams about them losing a little cash...
i for one. if i cant download then thats fine but i still wont pay for the movie i wont to see i will just go without..ezy and they still losing my share

the more they get the more they want
the more they want the more thay get(gov help)

i worry about people like this tit

I agree with borhan9 that you can just turn your back on crimes such as robbery that have direct phiscial crimes involving individuals.

The statment makes a farce out of the rights of the individual and suggest rather firmly that the corpiration comes first.

Really anyone would think that he was paid to say that....

This has to be the most idiotic statement any media jerk could make. Cottonhead is putting the almighty dollar that companies are losing over the lives of human beings. It is to late to take the cotton out of head as it has already soaked up all of common sense. The mian reason a lot of companies lose money is that they have nut cases like running them, but it is easy to just blame the consumer by declaring all of us thieves. What they need to do is clean up their own house before trying to clean up others. If they would put out a quality product that would meet the price, there would be a lot less piracy. A lot that do pirate prodcuts do it because they don't have the money to buy the product, so those companies aren't losing anything, there would be no sale anyways. Even though some robberies don't result in bodily harm to a person, they may have just cashed their small disability or retirement check, so then they don't eat or pay their rent that month. I bet Cottonhead hasn't slept in the streets or went hungry, so i guess that give gim the right to put down the low income group. I do don't begrudge people make it to the top of the money scale, but don't put down the little man.

give me a break, if it's intangible, it's not stealing!

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As Farmer57 said "don't put down the little man", because one thing you gotta rember rick cotton.

It's the people on the middle to lower end of pay scale, that make your cushy lives possible.

We build your cars, jets, grow your food, build your homes, would you like me to keep going Rick "asshat" Cotton.

F#$king jackoffs.
The more I read these posts, the more I wanna punch that asshat in the face.

P.S. I just saw a pic of rick cotton, I be doing him a big favor.

Peace all

Sorry, but wouldn't it be funny if something terrible happens to Mr. Cotton...he has an occasion to call them and the police should tell him "sorry, can't come to your house. We have a piracy ring to bust first. Suck it up on your own" Then maybe he will think differently about the police's priority.
- NOT that I hope anything would happen to him, but this guy definitely needs to rearrange his priorities!