In no way shape or form was the first nor this revisit a movie that made you want to see it on the big screen. No big screen appeal = poor turnout every time. There have been a pile of movies that received critical acclaim and tanked on the big screen just because they were not BIG SCREEN movies. There have been a pile of poorly reviewed movies that did very well because they had that "gotta see that on the big screen" appeal.

As for piracy tanking it... I can think of a few people who would ask for a refund on their bandwidth with this turkey.

Has this dumb mother****er even watched this movie???!!! ITS TERRIBLE!!!

Plot: Same as Hostel I except:
1.Switch the guys in the first movie with girls.
2.Drag the storyline out with parties, like the first movie.
3.Have really dumb scenes of how the people get killed...
4...and dont have too many of them (for budget reasons).
5.Much less blood and gore (for budget reasons).
6.An asinine ending that makes you go W-T-F???!!! Are you ****ing KIDDING?????

Hostel-2 was not a good movie so do not blame Piracy on that...You need to take a lot of time off...I like Hostel-1 it was a nice movie.

absolute rubbish.

The poor sales are because the second one sucked. Word-of-mouth is a powerful tool.

it has very little actual gore, and not nearly enough nudity (if you dont put lots of gore and lots of nudity into a horror movie then it sucks, no exceptions). despite the previously stated shortcomings i still think this is a pretty decent movie, as a suspense movie. not sure if i would have actually paid money to see it, but then again im not sure id pay money to see 99% of the crap i download.

well he sure is full of himself isn't he?

and hostel was a thinly veiled excuse for sadistic tendencies and hostel II is even worse. these horror films are usually cult favorites anyway and not mainstream. the only reason Saw was so popular was because there was a fascinating psychology there within the plot. hostel has no such depth. whatever. not even worth pirating.

hostel is just one of those movies where the idea had so much potential, but the movie really sucked, both movies...

When your movie sucks, blame someone else :)

He *thinks* it makes him look better,

boohoo. i think hostell is a stupid franchise. hope they dont make another one.

Regardless of how good or bad his (or any film) is...it's crap that it was leaked, and I can't imagine any critic using an unfinished product as source material. That is inexcusable imo

While I thought the 1st movie had it's moments, it did have the advantage of hype and timing (February) to help drive sales. As well as being "new".

But one thing he mentioned that I completely, 100% agree with is the lack of support from the studios for good R-Rated horror movies. I'm SICK of being pummeled with watered down pg-13 pieces of crap!

That's not to say there aren't any good pg-13 films. Disturbia was quite fun and well done for what it was...but there should be more serious, harder edged, rated R films. Specifically "horror" films, action movies seem to do fine, easily receiving an R rating by showing a few people getting blown away...so why not Horror films?

That all said, Story "can" trump graphics and effects...but rarely. As stories of that caliber are few and far between. So we, the fans of Horror rely on graphic special effects to drive our thrills and chills. So when you (the studio) gives us both a weak story AND a weak rating, it's a lose - lose situation.

So I have to agree with Roth, Support your R Rated Horror films (and R rated films across the board lol)...say No to the pg13 limp studio driven drivel they try to ram down our throats.

Can you really imagine Halloween as a pg13 film? /shudder

Regards,

MC

(btw Cabin Fever was incredible imo, Roth has talent...but I think he needs to get from under the "torture" umbrella and on to other aspects of horror. And for those that don't know, Hostel 2 is the same premise as the 1st, only dealing with a group of girls this time. Was planning to see it but it left my local theaters too fast...unfortunate)

i watched the first 5 minutes of the workprint, and after seeing the lame double death of the main character from the original Hostel i thought "Mhh" and just left it?

poor

human nature innit ? blame anyone else but yourself.

in this case a shit director with shit for brains releases a shitty movie and is too arrogant to recognise his own crappiness so blames the pirates.

Its not piracy thats kicking the box office its the COST. I went the other day to see Spiderman 3 with my daughter. $16 for 1 adult and a child... $13 for 2 drinks and a popcorn. Are they Kidding? Who the heck is going to do that regularly? Most people have to work half a day to pay for a 1 and a half hour movie. What a rip off... try making it affordable and more people will go. Theres no way to beat the sound and large screen of a movie theatre but my tv will do just fine.

Originally posted by plastruk:

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Its not piracy thats kicking the box office its the COST. I went the other day to see Spiderman 3 with my daughter. $16 for 1 adult and a child... $13 for 2 drinks and a popcorn. Are they Kidding? Who the heck is going to do that regularly? Most people have to work half a day to pay for a 1 and a half hour movie. What a rip off... try making it affordable and more people will go. Theres no way to beat the sound and large screen of a movie theatre but my tv will do just fine.

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the cost is stupid,god forbid they would lower proffering a bit and the influx from more people to see a 4$ movie and 4$ single ,10$ family of 4,or 25$ for 4 tickes drinks and snaks to adults flat fee for drinks/snacks, they can do it,they can do something they just don't want to and hollywood loves overcharging the theaters to boot.

Not to mention the theaters treat their employees like shit. I've had 5 friends decide to work at a theater and they all quick before their 90 days was up because they got treated so bad. Greedy bastards will do anything to make money, charge as high a price as you can and keep bringing in new employees so you don't have to give senior employees raises.

From wat my cousin told me it is totally not worth anything he told me not to waste my time or money so either way i am not downloading or paying for this.

I liked Hostel, but felt no need to see Hostel II. Not sure why, or even if it matters. Never saw it (sorry) and IDGARA.

perhaps it may have something to do with the film being shite?

Your movie is shite son.People wouldnt even download it for free. Punk mutha fker

Of course, they keep trying to flog adults endless imagination-free sequels and/or movies aimed as suitable for very young teenage kids and then they wonder why it doesn't attract an audience.

Yeah riiiiiiiiight, of course, it's those pesky 'pirates'.

Best excuse going atm I guess. Idiots.

I wholly agree with Footie979's review.

Not only do I refuse to see movies in the theatres for the cost, but also for the noise factor! And it's not only kids I have to ask to shut up. I simply wait for the movies to come to either the cheap theatre (we also have a cheap theatre that charges only $5 all seats rather than the $13) or video (I usually wait for the video).

I myself usually only copy my own movies for backup (and I don't care who "pirates" them either) and I am sick and tired of these movie people complaining about the piracy. Don't they make enough money on their own? I guess million dollars profit (collectively) isn't enough.

These movies have no class and I wont pay for such trash nor do they carry anything scary.His movie really cant carry its own so he would rather pass the blame somewhere else to feel better.I dont see anything wrong with toning things down as to most of those R-rated movies dont much of a plot they just throw gore at us and expect a great response.Hollywood has been pumping this crap so long people are getting use to it now and it doesnt raise us up to really say I have to see that movie.I for one am glad there wont be anymore movies out of him for some time.Hey maybe by the time he comes out from hiding there will be some better horror movies out that will entertain and thrill us not just kill with no plot and act like a walking dead movie.I did like the old walking dead movie it was just the first and it did it best on a meager budget and unknown actors it scared and did what these copycats are trying to do today but miss so bad.

Blaming the bad box office return on a pirated copy being out there ? Sounds good...think anyone else will believe that ? Then he goes on to say he won't make any more movies for a while. Ever hear of The Sour Grapes ? An example of this would be when you were a kid and couldn't get what you wanted so you claim it probably wasn't any good anyway. That sounds kind of what he is doing here. I'm not getting good returns on my movies so I won't make anymore for a while...oh and the PG-13 rating is killing the R-rated horror films....please.
There was a pirated copy of the last Star Wars movie out there before it even went into the theater and that didn't stop Star Wars from making a chunk of change. Why doesn't he blame it on the fact that it was a mediocre movie ? I'll tell you what though I have always loved the way Quentin Tarantino makes his movies go from one movie type to another. For example; From Dusk Till Dawn started out as an action adventure and ended up a vampire movie. That was great. I don't want to spoil it for you all but this one starts off as a horror movie and ends as a comedy...which is truly awesome...unless they didn't mean it to be like that.

Hostel 2 was complete crap. No character development. No suspense like the first move. Weak all around. Pirates would do the people involved in this movie by stealing the film reels from the theaters. Spare moviegoers from an hour an a half of B grade nonsense.

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They let this seriously bland gory dribble into theaters, no problem.
but they ban manhunt 2 for ps3/wii?? ARGH!

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