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Bush Administration on P2P trial decision

7 October 2007 17:28 by James "Dela" Delahunty | 31 comments

Bush Administration on P2P trial decision According to the Bush administration, the recent jury decision that left a woman with a $220,000 bill for allegedly illegally sharing 24 files shows that the legal process is working against P2P-based piracy. Chris Israel, a former Time Warner employee, was appointed by President George W. Bush as the U.S. Coordinator for International Intellectual Property Enforcement in July 2005.

"Cases such as this remind us strong enforcement is a significant part of the effort to eliminate piracy, and that we have an effective legal system in the U.S. that enables rights holders to protect their intellectual property," Israel stated. He made the comments a day after the controversial decision.

The Bush administration has written trade deals that include anti-circumvention restrictions and in 2005, President Bush signed the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act, which strengthened punishment for file sharers. "Piracy impacts many of our most innovative industries, costs American jobs and is a huge threat to our economic competitiveness," Israel said.

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    themboots (Newbie) 8 October 2007 7:01 Send private message to this user   
    Strange coming from the Bush administration, considering that Dubya recently admitted listening to the Beatles on his iPod, and that he must have ripped it from a CD since the Beatles aren't available on iTunes. And during the recent trial, one of the label chiefs said that ripping music is a kindler/gentler way of saying stealing!

    In any case, consumers will now stay away from apps like Kazaa and eMule, in favor of private p2p software which is legal, such as GigaTribe: www.gigatribe.com
    edsrouter (Newbie) 8 October 2007 8:46 Send private message to this user   
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    club42 (Member) 8 October 2007 10:02
    Why does this not surprise me. Thank god for 08.

    I hear that. It isn't soon enough. I can't believe we're almost half way into October and I still have the a/c on with this 90 degree heat. That's another topic.

    The next big case will be about some guy addicted to file-sharing and couldn't stop. You watch this defense will be soon.
    Kerpalguy (Newbie) 8 October 2007 9:09 Send private message to this user   
    Those who want to help fight the RIAA go here:

    http://www.freejammie.com/
    WierdName (Senior Member) 8 October 2007 11:43 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by aabbccdd:
    I'm out of debt and don't depend on ther goverment to take care of me from the cradle to the grave like some. you make you're own life/choices and depending on someone else is the lazy way out!!. so if you don't like the system get off you're a** and do something about it!! because the goverment is no anwser
    Wow, someone on here actually has some sense...

    Quote:
    Cases such as this remind us strong enforcement is a significant part of the effort to eliminate piracy, and that we have an effective legal system in the U.S. that enables rights holders to protect their intellectual property,
    Cases such as this? When was the last time before this the RIAA, MPAA, or anyone like them actually won a case in court rather than scaring people into settling?

    And finally as a general statement, would all the Bush haters shut up? If you really wanted him out of office that bad, you should have started a petition or something to the government for a movement to have him impeached. Oh, but wait, now you have get someone else into office to replace him. I wonder how much worse they would be... They would probably be the extreme opposite which means that people would keep attacking the U.S. and the new president would just say "violence isn't the answer. We shouldn't go to war with them."
    windsong (Junior Member) 8 October 2007 12:39 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by club42:
    Why does this not surprise me. Thank god for 08.
    Were you alive when Clinton was in office? That lying SOB did more to thwart P2P sharers than any other president. And Kerry would have been TEN times worse than Bush.

    Trying doing a little research.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
    windsong (Junior Member) 8 October 2007 12:41 Send private message to this user   
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    I hear that. It isn't soon enough. I can't believe we're almost half way into October and I still have the a/c on with this 90 degree heat. That's another topic.
    They don't get any more gullible than this.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 8 October 2007 13:18 Send private message to this user   
    Solo_Tek
    The childerns health care bill was a bit to middle class friendly,plus it also tried to cover adults living with parents...of coarse the fools cant see that if you are disabled and living with your rents you might..gee I dunno need it...try not being on anythign and you need 600 for teeth.

    aabbccdd
    people still need help and the middle class need all the help they can get to keep putting all the money into goverment.
    spydah (Junior Member) 8 October 2007 16:00 Send private message to this user   
    I wont comment on this article to much because the title says it all and to the comment talking about the Bush haters, honestly i dont think a petition would have done a thing and furthermore what politician really gives two shiznits about anything other then money, publicity, and maintaining their current status.

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8 October 2007 16:00

    24Lover (Inactive) 8 October 2007 17:58 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by spydah:
    I wont comment on this article to much because the title says it all and to the comment talking about the Bush haters, honestly i dont think a petition would have done a thing and furthermore what politician really gives two shiznits about anything other then money, publicity, and maintaining their current status.
    Amen on that 08 couldn't come so fast thanks GOD 1 more year with this clown Bush.
    WierdName (Senior Member) 8 October 2007 20:51 Send private message to this user   
    Are you people truly that ignorant to think a petition won't do anything? If you actually construct it well, get enough publicity for it, and submit it to the proper government officials, it could actually accomplish getting an impeachment. Instead of even trying anything intelligent, and intelligent being the key word, people just complain and complain.
    aabbccdd (Inactive) 8 October 2007 23:14 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    aabbccdd
    people still need help and the middle class need all the help they can get to keep putting all the money into government.
    yes thats correct BUT if you vote liberal you're going to be paying more taxes period

    Quote:
    Were you alive when Clinton was in office? That lying SOB did more to thwart P2P sharers than any other president. And Kerry would have been TEN times worse than Bush.

    Trying doing a little research.
    you are right on there


    Quote:
    Amen on that 08 couldn't come so fast thanks GOD 1 more year with this clown Bush.
    hey 24Lover who do you think is going to save the day then? Hillary Clinton? HAAA!!
    yeah right


    and i guarantee you this article is left wing bias because both party's are guilty of this mess so lets don't bash Bush guys. theres plenty of blame to go around




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    WierdName (Senior Member) 9 October 2007 0:21 Send private message to this user   
    @aabbccdd
    It's nice to see someone with some common sense on here.
    aabbccdd (Inactive) 9 October 2007 0:33 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by WierdName:
    @aabbccdd
    It's nice to see someone with some common sense on here.
    Thanks i won't put up with the Bush bashing. I wonder how the people here bashing him would like it if me or someone else was to bash there parents/family etc. bet it wouldn't fly so lets not bash the president of the great United States Of America i mean if its that bad move to Iraq

    goverment isn't going to fix you're problems people so make the right choices and get off you're ass and do it yourself!!




    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9 October 2007 0:36

    WierdName (Senior Member) 9 October 2007 0:49 Send private message to this user   
    I might not use that exact terminology but basically ya. If everyone who really complains that much would just do something about it, they could have had him out of office. Then again, after he would have been impeached, who would fill in? And more importantly, what would they be like? I think people just don't realize that, with politics, you just try to get the lesser of the evils. You aren't going to get someone perfect in office.
    hughjars (Inactive) 9 October 2007 4:46 Send private message to this user   
    Bush said in an interview that his iPod had the Beatles on it (before they were legally available).

    No chance of any 'enforcement' there tho, eh?

    Same old same old; one rule for the wealthy & powerful, 'examples' and ruined lives for the rest of us if 'they' decide to so.

    Evil bas*ards.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 9 October 2007 8:09 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by hughjars:
    Bush said in an interview that his iPod had the Beatles on it (before they were legally available).

    No chance of any 'enforcement' there tho, eh?

    Same old same old; one rule for the wealthy & powerful, 'examples' and ruined lives for the rest of us if 'they' decide to so.

    Evil bas*ards.

    heil!
    nobrainer (Inactive) 9 October 2007 8:24 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by hughjars:
    Bush said in an interview that his iPod had the Beatles on it (before they were legally available).

    No chance of any 'enforcement' there tho, eh?

    Same old same old; one rule for the wealthy & powerful, 'examples' and ruined lives for the rest of us if 'they' decide to so.

    Evil bas*ards.
    bang on the money!
    jacsac (Member) 9 October 2007 9:29 Send private message to this user   
    We will see what happens in 08. I just don't see anything changing from the status quo unless someone Independent or maybe like a Ron Paul is elected. Since there is vote tampering and other under-handedness I don't see it. Donkey is to elephant as poo is to sh*t. There needs to be a change in lobbying and campaign finance. Props to Bush for appointing a corporate stooge from the very industry it is protecting, government of the people my ass.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 9 October 2007 9:33 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by jacsac:
    We will see what happens in 08. I just don't see anything changing from the status quo unless someone Independent or maybe like a Ron Paul is elected. Since there is vote tampering and other under-handedness I don't see it. Donkey is to elephant as poo is to sh*t. There needs to be a change in lobbying and campaign finance. Props to Bush for appointing a corporate stooge from the very industry it is protecting, government of the people my ass.

    Pretty much both parites have become neo nazis both sides of the coin'o'exstream there is no middle there is no balance either its the corporate nazis who try and use the bible to "placate" the people or the nanny nazis who hate fairness and would rather give everythign to whoever is presumed to be "the lesser"...all of that added on the attention span of a sound bite we only vote for teh pretty famous people populace....we in the US are screwed.....
    ivymike (Junior Member) 9 October 2007 15:00 Send private message to this user   
    Message to Bush: Enjoy your life now you won't like spending eternity in Hell.
    nobrainer (Inactive) 10 October 2007 1:59 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by ivymike:
    Message to Bush: Enjoy your life now you won't like spending eternity in Hell.
    hell does not exist, religion is just a means of control. anyway bush signed his own immunity, get out of jail free card! in the form of the war crimes bill.

    Bush war crimes bill video!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGnaSN5Twq8

    When Democracy Failed by Thom Hartmann video! (watch this ppl)
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    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 10 October 2007 2:02

    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 10 October 2007 15:32 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Originally posted by ivymike:
    Message to Bush: Enjoy your life now you won't like spending eternity in Hell.
    hell does not exist, religion is just a means of control. anyway bush signed his own immunity, get out of jail free card! in the form of the war crimes bill.

    Bush war crimes bill video!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGnaSN5Twq8

    When Democracy Failed by Thom Hartmann video! (watch this ppl)
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...cy+failed&hl=en

    What does Christianity, 911 and The Federal Reserve ... all » have in common?
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...index=0


    Hell in the Christian sense dose not exist,I do believe in good and evil and "hell" merely begin a place where evil lingers, not a place for punishment...that place is called earth ^^
    Mez (Senior Member) 15 October 2007 14:58 Send private message to this user   
    Just another Bushism. Worry about pirates and killing rag heads instead of worrying about the US.
    pryme_H (Senior Member) 15 October 2007 15:28 Send private message to this user   
    Just another perfect example of misappropriation of funds...



    Whatever's clever...
    borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 18 October 2007 17:27 Send private message to this user   
    I reckon if we show the bush admin the advantages about p2p he would like it as long as it grows money for the economy. I feel maybe they can see if they can catch the bad guys through p2p. :P
    nobrainer (Inactive) 21 October 2007 7:39 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by borhan9:
    I reckon if we show the bush admin the advantages about p2p he would like it as long as it grows money for the economy. I feel maybe they can see if they can catch the bad guys through p2p. :P
    it matters not because the bankers pull the strings and own the media corporations and tell the government what laws they want.

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