this is not good they want to end the gray area of fan subbing an frankly thats bad, I loath the damage done to a show by hack dubbers, they can't even sub it right and still want almost 4$ a ep.

get me sub only at a buck a ep and I will be more inclined to chose buying as a form of viewing, until then I will view anime as already having made its profit since the Japaneses DVD's are 30$ a pop or more, add that onto TV runs, like hackywoods oozing profits these bastards are not going poor anytime soon..


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Sir I refute your greed and substitute my own!

It's not so much fansubbing that is being targeted here but Japanese P2P users like Winny, Share and the likes. Which is very troubling since a lot of Japanese living abroad use those because it's the only viable way to still watch Japanese TV where it's unavailable.

I couldn't care less about fansubs, but I'm concerned about my wife and me not being able to see the shows we used to watch in Japan.

Instead of going after people like us, they should be focussing on the millions and millions of illegal anime and tokusatsu DVD's being printed in China and distributed throughout the world.

Originally posted by kyo28:

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It's not so much fansubbing that is being targeted here but Japanese P2P users like Winny, Share and the likes. Which is very troubling since a lot of Japanese living abroad use those because it's the only viable way to still watch Japanese TV where it's unavailable.

I couldn't care less about fansubs, but I'm concerned about my wife and me not being able to see the shows we used to watch in Japan.

Instead of going after people like us, they should be focussing on the millions and millions of illegal anime and tokusatsu DVD's being printed in China and distributed throughout the world.

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I think I have one or 2, uhg the quality of the subs makes US dubing look good LOL

You might not care for anime,I might not care for normal TV...any of it LOL but we my friend are in the same boat,I am also a gamer the march on consumers from OTT DRM,to modchips,to backups to downloading over the air TV programs that already made their profit, the march is on and our rights are endangered because the media mafia wants to save a buck.

The thing with Asia is that pirating is overlooked because ppl are living in sever poverty that is not seen in North America other than a few parts of Mexico and people will do anything to survive and these are the people that the mpaa are targeting. They will never target the real pirates as they have guns and the backing of huge criminal organisations that fire back and are left alone. Most of Asia holds the usa in contempt because of their arrogance, hypocrisy and exploitation of Asia's workforce and resources, so no matter what deals or laws are signed it won't change a thing.

Originally posted by nobrainer:

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The thing with Asia is that pirating is overlooked because ppl are living in sever poverty that is not seen in North America other than a few parts of Mexico and people will do anything to survive and these are the people that the mpaa are targeting. They will never target the real pirates as they have guns and the backing of huge criminal organisations that fire back and are left alone. Most of Asia holds the usa in contempt because of their arrogance, hypocrisy and exploitation of Asia's workforce and resources, so no matter what deals or laws are signed it won't change a thing.

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thats why they have programs to sell times there cheaper not quite as cheap as the pirates do of coarse... they need to do things different match pirate prices and work with the governments to nullfiy the black markets it wont happen tho LOL

Again, this is MPAA scrambling for international alliance. This is definitely not a war they can win on their own.

I bet that MPAA representative Bob Pisano was having difficulty in keeping a straight face with that little piece of oratory where he tries to get the young, the old and the traditional on side by implying that the companies AND MPAA has honour, decency, fairness, dignity - seems to me that mpaa is the opposite of most things in that speech and mpaa certainly is nothing like the traditional values of Nihong. In fact, the mpaa are more like Commodore Perry revisiting - although it's a bit different this time with Japan being wealthy and the USA being in debt

People are not going to agree with this cause in effect you can not try to force other countries to adopt your crap laws.

Why not look to Asia? It is too hard and not enough money. The US is real easy. All you need to do is pay a lobby group enough money and they will 'fix it'. You notice how the motion industry treats its artists? After the industry has clawed and bit their way to a fat future for the sake of the artists, the artists were told to get lost when they wanted their cut.

Is this the law that is in the Judiciary committee? We need to be on top of that baby!