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FAST wants pirates banned from the Internet

4 November 2007 18:49 by Andre "DVDBack23" Yoskowitz | 42 comments

FAST wants pirates banned from the Internet Although the UK government has threatened to crack down on illegal file sharing through new legislation, John Lovelock, the director general of the Federation Against Software Theft (FAST) feels his method will work just as well, ban any pirates from the Internet.

FAST would like to monitor and filter all ISP networks to ensure that unauthorized file sharing does not occur. If such file sharing does occur, FAST wants the ability to lifetime ban the user from the ISP in which the offense occurred. But what if the user than decides to move to a new ISP? FAST will follow that user and "If there's evidence of that person then joining another ISP and then taking up again, we would go to that ISP and say: Here's the evidence and we don't think they should be allowed to use your network". Such tactics would effectively ban a pirate from using the Internet.

Although there is no way Lovelock will get his way on this, it brings up serious questions about civil liberties and how involved anti-piracy groups can become on an ISP level.

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    ali2007 (Inactive) 5 November 2007 8:26 Send private message to this user   
    time for us pirates to start our own isp
    P51ride (Newbie) 5 November 2007 10:43 Send private message to this user   
    The ISP's would go broke. I certainly wouldn't be spending $ 38.00 a month for service with wireless networking just for surfing the internet. I would go back to dial up in a heartbeat and tell the broadband services to you know what up a rope and suck on the other end. The other comment that states that the entertainment business doesn't understand that we are tired of being their sheep and treated like a mushroom (fed Bovine Scaffology and kept in the dark).

    Just my $.04 (Inflation)

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23 November 2007 4:24

    Kerpalguy (Newbie) 5 November 2007 11:45 Send private message to this user   
    Will never happen. What if FAST goes to ISP provider XYZ and tells them they have the 'evidence' (make me laugh) that 80% of their customers are file sharing. Do you seriously think that the ISP will freely agree with those idiots and cut off 80% of their clientel? That would be economic suicide.

    The director general of FAST needs to wake up and smell the coffee. His draconian way of thinking is way past due.

    BTW: www.relakks.com
    LOCOENG (Moderator) 5 November 2007 12:00 Send private message to this user   
    navi1199

    watch the language
    emugamer (Member) 5 November 2007 12:03 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by P51ride:
    The ISP's would go broke. I certainly wouldn't be spending $ 38.00 a month for service with wireless networking just for surfing the internet. I would go back to dial up in a heartbeat and tell the broadband services to pi$$ up a rope and suck on the other end.
    Ah ha! You've hit the nail on the head P51ride! AOL is behind this! It's a conspiracy....lol.

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5 November 2007 12:04

    BludRayne (Junior Member) 5 November 2007 12:19 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by mebjolz:
    maybe its about time the "pirates" started an organization of their own, some kind of death squad would be nice to rid the world of bastards like Loveless...then they could move on to censorship advocates, christians...the list is long
    I support your Death Squad. Kill all who oppose P2P!
    DXR88 (Member) 5 November 2007 12:19 Send private message to this user   
    this will never happen,why? #1 pirates are not stupid. #2 if i was going too do somthing illiagle i would use my nieghbors internet connection. #3 buy a new network card every week to dodge mac checking #4 roaming in a van with a laptop to find pontential victims.

    in a sence of brains pirates have many options.
    vinny13 (Inactive) 5 November 2007 12:53 Send private message to this user   
    Those sh!ts are just as bad as the RIAA...
    Jhult (Junior Member) 5 November 2007 13:23 Send private message to this user   
    What a load of hardened bullhockey! This is about as ridiculous as saying that if we get rid of all of the guns, criminals won't be able to use them to kill people... Not only is it a violation of civil liberty, but it is a blatant attempt to gain control over the Internet all together and say who gets to use it all together.
    windsong (Junior Member) 5 November 2007 19:55 Send private message to this user   
    Well, Repub candidate Mitt Romney went on record saying he wants to "chip" sex offenders and monitor them 24/7...for the children. So I guess Pirates will be the ones to get the axe soon thereafter. And 20 years later of course..regular citizens like you and me who might be late on our taxes.

    I remember my grandpa telling me that when social security came out in the 1940s (30s?), the politicians swore up and down it would never be used for a means of identification. But try and get a job, rent a car, or apply to college without one.

    No thanks.
    windsong (Junior Member) 5 November 2007 19:57 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by mebjolz:
    maybe its about time the "pirates" started an organization of their own, some kind of death squad would be nice to rid the world of bastards like Loveless...then they could move on to censorship advocates, christians...the list is long
    Christians?

    I guess Jews too then?

    The Nazis would have loved you.
    mitchls (Junior Member) 5 November 2007 20:29 Send private message to this user   
    Lovelock, is Worse than those fellars at the Freakin' FCC



    And i think there's one more member for the Kiss My A$$ club,........

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5 November 2007 20:37

    cflip (Newbie) 5 November 2007 20:51 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by mebjolz:
    maybe its about time the "pirates" started an organization of their own, some kind of death squad would be nice to rid the world of bastards like Loveless...then they could move on to censorship advocates, christians...the list is long
    when you arrive at wankers on that list, mebjolz, let me know and I will put the gun to your head,

    signed
    a "Christian" "pirate"
    mitchls (Junior Member) 5 November 2007 22:40 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Originally posted by mebjolz:
    maybe its about time the "pirates" started an organization of their own, some kind of death squad would be nice to rid the world of bastards like Loveless...then they could move on to censorship advocates, christians...the list is long
    when you arrive at wankers on that list, mebjolz, let me know and I will put the gun to your head,

    signed
    a "Christian" "pirate"
    "Christian Pirate" doesn't work, sorry. Thou shall NOT violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act or "Steal"

    Anyway don't take any offense from broad insults, i firmly believe if something is said as joke, or in a lighthearted manner. it should only be seen as comedy or humor and should not be taken offensively, simple. don't take things to heart i say loads of racist jokes, but i don't mean them, mainly towards the Irish and blacks, but its all light hearted and doesn't mean a thing. Am i a bigot for making jokes like that? no. the same reason im not "self-harmer" because i make jokes about myself.

    a joke is a joke it holds no water, it comes as quick a social security benefits for foreigners. and goes just as fast.

    Peace out.

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5 November 2007 22:41

    iwatchtv (Junior Member) 6 November 2007 3:08 Send private message to this user   
    do you think people who file share should be doing more to hide their identity when doing it? what would you recommend for this?
    cousinkix (Newbie) 6 November 2007 11:31 Send private message to this user   
    John LOVELOCK sounds like good name for a C.S. to me. Wanna bet that he's a "bugger" as they call them in the UK?
    cflip (Newbie) 6 November 2007 15:19 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Quote:
    Originally posted by mebjolz:
    maybe its about time the "pirates" started an organization of their own, some kind of death squad would be nice to rid the world of bastards like Loveless...then they could move on to censorship advocates, christians...the list is long
    when you arrive at wankers on that list, mebjolz, let me know and I will put the gun to your head,

    signed
    a "Christian" "pirate"
    "Christian Pirate" doesn't work, sorry. Thou shall NOT violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act or "Steal"

    Anyway don't take any offense from broad insults, i firmly believe if something is said as joke, or in a lighthearted manner. it should only be seen as comedy or humor and should not be taken offensively, simple. don't take things to heart i say loads of racist jokes, but i don't mean them, mainly towards the Irish and blacks, but its all light hearted and doesn't mean a thing. Am i a bigot for making jokes like that? no. the same reason im not "self-harmer" because i make jokes about myself.

    a joke is a joke it holds no water, it comes as quick a social security benefits for foreigners. and goes just as fast.

    Peace out.
    fair enough mitchls, but all you have done is define irony for me (seeing the first comment as a joke but not the second) as I have done for you ("Christian" "pirate") Oh, and my favorite THOU SHALL NOTs are the customized kind, for instance, Thou should not talk if though does not really have anything to say.

    As for stealing, personally, I think Robin Hood is in heaven and as for bigotry that is your business (Thou Shall not Judge) but enough of the preachy talk, that is not who I am.

    Laters.
    Ripper (AfterDawn Addict) 6 November 2007 15:39 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    FAST wants pirates banned from the Internet
    That's nice for them >.>
    P51ride (Newbie) 6 November 2007 22:13 Send private message to this user   
    emugamer,

    I don't AOH3LL I have Bellsouth/ATT but I would go back to dial up. I still have my dial account with Yapoo.

    Sorry for the lousy post. I just can't put the words together tonight. Thank God for our neighbor because my submersible pump crapped the bed and its going to cost $ 1000 - $ 1300 to get it replaced. What aggravates me if I had the equipment I could probably do it myself and save $ 500. I have about 300 feet of garden hose feeding my tank from my neighbors well.

    Best Regards
    emugamer (Member) 8 November 2007 5:41 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by P51ride:
    emugamer,

    I don't AOH3LL I have Bellsouth/ATT but I would go back to dial up. I still have my dial account with Yapoo.

    Best Regards
    It was a joke - in light of the recent AOL financial news and layoffs....nevermind. If I have to explain it, it was a bad joke :-(
    plazma247 (Newbie) 10 November 2007 12:34 Send private message to this user   
    DXR88 (Member) 11 November 2007 9:11 Send private message to this user   
    plazma247 that was awsome oh thats funny
    vinny13 (Inactive) 11 November 2007 10:40 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by plazma247:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbX1aMajow

    Says it all.
    lmao
    Mez (Senior Member) 11 November 2007 16:12 Send private message to this user   
    Complaining here doesn't do much good other than it makes you feel better. In the US the Judiciary committee is supposedly cooking up some great law to wipe out piracy and protect the artists. I find it ironic that the artists have to go on strike to get a piece of that new pie. The Media Mafia states they do not understand. "The market is too complex for that." All they want is a percentage. If nothing is collected they would be happy to get nothing. The politicians have to be in their pocket to agree with them.

    You all need to write the committee members. Fear of losing an election is the only way to slow them down.
    gfactor13 (Newbie) 12 November 2007 22:13 Send private message to this user   
    so if you pirate something under that law you get banned, hmm ok lets take it a few steps farther. if your caught stealing an extra bred roll from a buffet you get banned from eating, if your late on returning a movie you can no longer rent one ever again, if you get a speeding ticket you banned from driving, if you get a ticket for jay walking you can never use the streets again, ect.....
    what a bunch of smegma that law is. i think he should be banned from opening his big mouth for the nexr 50 years or so.
    borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 19 November 2007 16:04 Send private message to this user   
    England's version of the MPAA and the RIAA. Thats all we need more organizations like this to think they can police everyones activities.
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