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I am Legend (With alternate Ending)
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$18.95

Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...=glance

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i happen to buy most movies through amazon as they are usually ATLEAST 30% off if not MORE. one can even pick up NT BookofSecrets for 23.95. certainly nice prices all around i think. surfing around i just came across I am legend at overstock.com for 18.95. for those interested enough in HD, the best deals are online, you just have to find them. there are BOGOS, 10$ off, x% off all the time...

Originally posted by hughjars:

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- Yeah, cos Blu-ray is the only means of getting high def?!

LMAO.

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hugh ole buddy ole pal, i am honestly curious how you obtain movies such as POT, Cars, Simpsons, DieHard, and even the Spiderman trilogy in High Def? whether you enjoy or prefer these movies is beyond the point, as you probably know where im going with this. I ask because when i walk into BB,CC, walmart or even go over the border to FutureShop i only see these movies available in HIGH DEF on BLU-RAY. so apparently BLU-RAY is the only means at obtaining HIGH DEF to a certain DEGREE and thus as i already said, there are a minority of REDconsumers out there who are limiting their HD experience. and naturally if you say through your cable or satellite provider then i too would wonder why you invested in HD-DVD if that was/is already sufficient. then again you wouldn't even own a physical copy and wheres the fun in that. catch22..??

Neph here backing up my man LOCO 100%.

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Originally posted by PantherM:

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I am Legend (With alternate Ending)
Blu-Ray
$18.95

Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...KX0DER&v=glance

I guess that would be a price cut on a new movie.....right?

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Just pre-ordered it on HD DVD (dont forget its standard DVD on the other side) for same price, very nice find ;)

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Neph here backing up my man LOCO 100%.

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That's a roger.

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Okay, I am sorry, but I will continue pulling this reply thread further off-topic. Some things just need to be set straight regarding SUC or Super Resolution. It is a a good upscaling method, but it can't do magic and certainly wont replace true HD. Such methods may be useful on very large TV:s, but on the other hand high-end TVs tend to have good scalers built in, like Faroudja's for an example.

Here is an excellent comparison by a software company that develops video enhancement software.

http://www.thedeemon.com/articles/video_...comparison.html

Move your mouse around the chart and look at the sample frames. Read the PNSR values for different scale methods and learn. From that excellent demo we can see that while Super Resolution is the better method for scaling, the difference to bicubic resample is less than stellar. Also worth noting is that SUC devices are supposed to do this is real time, so the algorithms need to be pretty damn fast, so I doubt that the analysis are as thorought as in offline video editing.

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Your initial post in this topic was an obvious bait attempt to start this "debate" and it worked.

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- Well I'm not trying to be deliberately argumentitive here or irritate or annoy but it wasn't.

It was just poking a bit of fun at Nextgen76 (we have a bit of history for this kind of thing) and at the Fox issues, BD+ & Blu-ray.

It was A_Klingons comment to me that provoked the Super Upconversion stuff and the discussion rolled on from there.

....and cd-rw.org a article about upscaling which doesn't even mention Super Upconversion proves nothing.

Anyways, I'd have thought you'd have been making all sorts of amazed & impressed comments about the power of the Cell.....or does that only apply when it's in a Sony product?

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Originally posted by LOCOENG:

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Your initial post in this topic was an obvious bait attempt to start this "debate" and it worked.

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- Actually it wasn't.

It was poking a bit of fun at Nextgen76 (we have a bit of history for this kind of thing) and at Fox, BD+ & Blu-ray.

It was A_Klingons comment to me that provoked the Super Upconversion stuff and the discussion rolled on from there.

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Thats the reason why i didn't reply to his comment because i know where it was going to lead to.You have a history of this i don't i may disagree with you but i don't attack or insult other members here period.Or ask Binkie7 she knows me better than any member knows me here.

Originally posted by nextgen76:

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i may disagree with you but i don't attack or insult other members here period.

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- ....and whilst I may disagree (sometimes very strongly) I have never made a personal attack on you on these boards.

Nor (unlike you and some others) have I ever rolled in and started asking mods for people to be banned or suspended either. :P

What part of keep it on topic don't you people understand? The next post that isn't 100% about the topic is gone.

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hughjars, lightning struck!!! whose next as there is now 4 mods involved in this thread?

Originally posted by ddp:

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hughjars, lightning struck!!! whose next as there is now 4 mods involved in this thread?

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Actually it was 5 moderators and 1 staff member... A_Klingon, LOCOENG, Nephilim, creaky, ddp and DVDBack23... Wow! All I can say is, it's about time... Thank you!

Now hopefully we can discuss Blu-ray related articles with freedom that will allow open discussion. I much rather have discussions about development and forward thinking in this format. If people want to talk about Blu-ray's DRM, let's talk about ways to circumvent it on a different thread, like this one... http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346.

This is what AfterDawn was created for in the first place.

Mods, I hope you don't mind me posting that link here. I am trying to encourage a positive viewpoint towards all this Blu-ray DRM mayhem. Taking action is always better than complaining.


Back to topic, can anybody confirm if these savings will be available in Australia?

Here's a nice Blu-ray price list from EzyDVD for anybody in Australia... http://www.ezydvd.com.au/mech/search.zml...or=&la=&su=&ob=

I am Legend is showing as $42.83 AUD, so it seems that we didn't get the discount as PantherM ($35.99 reduced to $18.95 USD) mentioned.

EDIT: I just realised (as juankerr also mentioned) that I am Legend is not a fox title.

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Actually it was 5 moderators and 1 staff member

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Yeah, and one ex-admin too =). It's kinda sad and is seen on many websites. The Sony anti-fanclub will take every opportunity to bash Sony/Blu-ray, attacking on every goddamn news post and discussion thread.

Anyway back on topic. Gradual price reductions is the way to go. I see that stand-alone players are now around the ~$350 price point, and will sink to $199 eventually. Blu-ray seems to be giving a good push to PlayStation 3, which is really gaining momentum now as it's more advanced technology offering is starting to open up for people (see article: here & here).

I hope and I have a feeling that the Blu-ray camp will push it aggressively towards main stream, instead of capitalizing on their monopoly. And they should too, as download based solutions are other more advance distribution mediums are evolving rapidly.

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Originally posted by hughjars:

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note the days of BOGOs and $15 - $20 Blu-ray movies are long over.

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For anyone who's interested, there's a BOGO on selected BluRay titles at your local Target store starting today:

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=48704

Here's The list:
Casino Royale
Spider-man 3
Live Free Of Die Hard
Ocean’s Thirteen
300
SAW IV
3:10 To Yuma
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World’s End
The Simpson’s Movie
The Game Plan
Ratatouille

Added: The 50% OFF BluRay sale at amazon is still ongoing. I think this started on the 11th:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie...205241&plpage=1

This sucks....
I'm trying to buy a new car....and I don't want to spend money on new Blu-Rays right now.

But...I am Legend is on sale (Amazon)...so is Black Hawk Down (Amazon)....Now 300 is BOGO at Target?

I'm glad the price cuts are happening across multiple studios. I think people can live with $20 Blu-Ray's right now....especially in this economy.

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Actually it was 5 moderators and 1 staff member

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Now if only there was this kinda support on the console threads... All of them :(

Even the positive ones get trashed...

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Originally posted by vinny13:

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Actually it was 5 moderators and 1 staff member

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Now if only there was this kinda support on the console threads... All of them :(

Even the positive ones get trashed...

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Nope, we're in there a great deal, far too much in fact..

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All the people I see complaining about not seeing enough mods around are the same ones I don't see offensive reports coming in from...if something needs done, use the button please.

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[A line from hughjars, which I just noticed for the very first time] :

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It was A_Klingons comment to me that provoked the Super Upconversion stuff and the discussion rolled on from there.

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I haven't got a clue in Hades what comment he is/was referring to. I don't know what the man was talking about.

OK, moving on. (Just wanted to clarify that). :)

Originally posted by LOCOENG:

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All the people I see complaining about not seeing enough mods around are the same ones I don't see offensive reports coming in from...if something needs done, use the button please.

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I'm not being offended, its just most posts are rather annoying like SONY IS THERE TO KILL YOU! and 360 IS A USELESS EASY-BAKE!

Ok well the Easy-Bake one was mine but that's something else at another time lol

Oh and then there's DRM this and DRM that... I don't think there is one thread that doesn't mention DRM... Like there will be a PS3 thread which eventually gets into Sony CDs and DRM crap... Is there nothing else to talk about?

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Originally posted by PantherM:

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This sucks....
I'm trying to buy a new car....and I don't want to spend money on new Blu-Rays right now.

But...I am Legend is on sale (Amazon)...so is Black Hawk Down (Amazon)....Now 300 is BOGO at Target?

I'm glad the price cuts are happening across multiple studios. I think people can live with $20 Blu-Ray's right now....especially in this economy.

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$15 should be the average store price for a Blu Ray and there should be older movies available for $10, like with HD-DVD's.

This $20+ a disk is just too much no matter the economy.

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Originally posted by PantherM:

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This sucks....
I'm trying to buy a new car....and I don't want to spend money on new Blu-Rays right now.

But...I am Legend is on sale (Amazon)...so is Black Hawk Down (Amazon)....Now 300 is BOGO at Target?

I'm glad the price cuts are happening across multiple studios. I think people can live with $20 Blu-Ray's right now....especially in this economy.

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$15 should be the average store price for a Blu Ray and there should be older movies available for $10, like with HD-DVD's.

This $20+ a disk is just too much no matter the economy.

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You got to give it time this is new tech.Also do some bargain shopping like i am i was paying those prices but now I'm using Amazon & getting great deals.I just got I Am Legend on Blu-Ray for 18.95 plus shipping 21 & change.BestBuy price is 27.99 online 29.99 in store.HD-DVD price point is low because its a dead format.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?...cp=1&id=1835768

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Originally posted by PantherM:

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This sucks....
I'm trying to buy a new car....and I don't want to spend money on new Blu-Rays right now.

But...I am Legend is on sale (Amazon)...so is Black Hawk Down (Amazon)....Now 300 is BOGO at Target?

I'm glad the price cuts are happening across multiple studios. I think people can live with $20 Blu-Ray's right now....especially in this economy.

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$15 should be the average store price for a Blu Ray and there should be older movies available for $10, like with HD-DVD's.

This $20+ a disk is just too much no matter the economy.

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I would love for them to be that cheap...but come on...the format war just ended a month ago. It will take years for the prices to get that low on a consistant basis. Remember how much CD's were when they first came out? DVD's? Laser Discs?

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Originally posted by juankerr:

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Originally posted by PantherM:

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I am Legend (With alternate Ending)
Blu-Ray
$18.95

Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...KX0DER&v=glance

I guess that would be a price cut on a new movie.....right?

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It's not a Fox title but $18.95 for a BluRay new release is simply too good to pass up.

I pre-ordered this together with Bonnie and Clyde and Digital Video Essentials.

Thanks for the heads up.

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I may be wrong but I think that's the first time that a new release BluRay is priced cheaper than the 2-disc DVD.

Probably because after 100,000,000 downloads via p2p for the dvd at the time of the cinema release they can only see the HD version as being viable if it is priced fairly.. They have already lost the dvd sales to us pirates... Arrrrrrrrrrr
:lol:

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Originally posted by varnull:

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Probably because after 100,000,000 downloads via p2p for the dvd at the time of the cinema release they can only see the HD version as being viable if it is priced fairly.. They have already lost the dvd sales to us pirates... Arrrrrrrrrrr
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Varnull, they are also available in HD on p2p (sourced from Blu-ray/HD-DVD) as soon as they hit the shelves too. Well... Before they hit the shelves in my case as I am in Australia... Hehe.

You can d'load recompressed 720p versions (usually about 4.35GB), recompressed 1080p versions (usually about 8GB) or the untouched 1080p versions ripped as they are from the disc (20GB+).

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