The lengths people go to never cease to amaze me. Might as well give up on this one though! BD+ will be broken! And even if it isnt, there will be a loop hole, there ALWAYS is.
@badkrma I would imagine compression is part of it, but do you really think that that high of def cant afford it? BD+rdl compressed to BD single layer would not be lossy. Atleast not to the human eye.
I would imagine for some people its for the challenge, and for others they're simply against DRM. DRM does NOT belong on physical media!!!

I hope Slysoft cracks the new protection scheme soon I'd like to rip the new Batman, I'm sure they will.

max partition size / max file size

NTFS
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16EB / 16EB (limit-- 64-bit)

16TB / 16TB (32-bit systems, 4 KB blocks)


FAT32
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4TB / 4GB

I've patched Linux systems with LBA48 to increase there hard drive capabilty so you can get by some limitations.

For the new Batman BD movie there are two large movie files in the BD Stream folder 00007.m2ts (32.6 GB) and 00008.m2ts (4.95 GB) so unlike the old MPEG2-TS format BD does use large file sizes which could be a problem on a Windows 98se machine but for NTFS you shouldn't have a problem. The .m2ts is a BDAV(Blu-ray Audio/Visual) Sony AVCHD MPEG2 transport stream format and the extension has a 5 number name structure attached to it.

Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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I hope Slysoft cracks the new protection scheme soon I'd like to rip the new Batman, I'm sure they will.

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It's already been done with the 6.4.9.1 Beta release (or via connecting to the Slysoft server with a paid version of AnyDVD HD and downloading the AACS key). ;-)

Originally posted by Oner:

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The 4 gig limit on files has more to do with FAT32 than with a 32 bit OS (unless you meant 32 bit systems as FAT) but either way it's a pretty easy fix with a partition or additional HD formated in NTFS. So a HTPC would have no problem at all, and as far as for use on the PS3 that is one area I have not used my console as of yet, but from my understanding it is a non issue too. I am sure Ryu77 (from right here on aD) can help us all out on that, if he reads this thread/post.

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Yes, you are correct Oner. ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre has no problems reading Blu-ray in its native folder format straight from a hard drive. NTFS is obviously the preferred file structure as there is no 4GB limit. I think where redux79 was mixing things up is in regards to the system RAM. A 32 bit OS is limited to using 4GB of RAM not 4GB per file size. However that is the limit to a FAT partition no matter which OS you are running.

In regards to playing Blu-ray/HD media with the PS3, you can multiplex (mux) to a MPEG2 Transport Stream (M2TS) and play it directly from the hard drive. Alternatively to play Blu-ray with the native folders intact, use the AVCHD-Me application. The link for this and many other applications are available on this thread... http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

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@Ryu77
I remember last summer when I was reading a thread in which some one described how they hooked up 3 500 gig externals to their ps3 for blu-ray rips. The three page explanation left my head spinning lol. If I had the cash for the hardware/software/av equipment I would do it in a heart beat. I'm sure when dvd was first cracked it was much the same way, once you learn the basics it's just a matter of fixing all the little things.

I’ve been skimming through you posts/threads for a couple of months now, and I can say without a doubt that your the go to person for most anything blu-ray, keep up the good work!

I know this will put some pressure because they are gonna start with charging for updates, to make an apease, I would'nt be suprized if they crack it by Jan.

Well, at least that one was decipherable.
Is graduation no longer a requirement?

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Heck, we have cable and satellite companies ever so slightly compressing the HD signal and claiming it is all right that it is still HD, but as soon as you adjust the signal it ain't HD anymore is it? (or am I way off here?)

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I think they can call it "HD" as long as it has a high pixel count. A Blu-Ray disc usually has a higher bitrate than HD broadcast.

All of these compression schemes are lossy. At a low bitrate, the number of pixles doesn't decrease, but the ability to update all of the pixels decreases. If you use too much compression, you can have a high definition 1,920 x 1,080 video that looks worse than a standard 720x480 or 720x576 DVD.

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You have analouge @ 500 or so but who cares anymore
Standard Digital which is DVD quaility @ 720
Then I guess you have upscaled @ around 900
Then HD @ 1080.

If the picture is compressed then you would need you viewing device to stretch the picture as the recieved picture would only fill those pixels that it recieves information for.

A Computer will normally do this automatically, your TV would probably need you to tell it, you would see the actual transmission size with the picture setting set to Auto.

On your computer you need a HD graphics card to get the picture out of them. For normal Television you still get a good picture quaility from a CRT but obviously not as good as if you had an LCD or Plasma

To draw a comparision just think about the video quality you got on a 56K modem as opposed to Broadband.

A little more work for slysoft :-)

Originally posted by gsebs:

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You have analouge @ 500 or so but who cares anymore
Standard Digital which is DVD quaility @ 720
Then I guess you have upscaled @ around 900
Then HD @ 1080.

If the picture is compressed then you would need you viewing device to stretch the picture as the recieved picture would only fill those pixels that it recieves information for.

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Hmm, a lot of misinformation there...

First of all analog is analog, it doesn't have pixels so it can not be directly compared to digital video. Yes, a CRT has scanlines and this number varies depending on whether it is a PAL or NTSC broadcast.

Ok, onto the resolutions...

Standard DVD does not have 720 vertical lines of resolution. However it does have 720 pixels horizontally. I think this is where people get mixed up. The common HD resolutions (ie: 720p, 1080i, 1080p) refer to the vertical pixel count. PAL DVD's are 720 x 576 @ 25fps. NTSC DVD's are 720 x 480 @ 23.976fps/29.98fps. So that would make PAL 576i/p and NTSC 480i/p.

Next, upscaling is not confined to meet a certain resolution. Well expecially not "900" like you mentioned. However, at this point in time the maximum available is 1080p (1920 x 1080). So that would mean you could have options of 720p, 1080i or 1080p depending on the player.

Ok, onto compression now. Compression refers to an algorithm that an encoder uses to decimate parts of data that would pertain to visual elements that the Human eye may not see. The more modern the video encoder, the more efficient it should be at this task. As an example h264 encoded at 10,000Kbs vs MPEG2 at 10,000Kbs (with the same video) would result in the h264 video being far superior. Compression in this instance does not refer to the resolution being smaller than the screen size. Every single screen will have an inbuilt upscaler. This is a very simple process that any device is capable of.

The more important factor that I think is the main point of the discussion here is bitrate vs resolution. In advanced video terminology some of the methods used to calculate this are SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio) and PSNR (Peak Signal to Noise Ratio) etc.. A video with a resolution of 1280 x 720 (720p) encoded with h264 at 15,000Kbs should be superior to a video with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 (1080p) encoded at 5,000Kbs. Even though the latter has a higher resolution, it is starved of bitrate. So a poorer quality video with a lot of noise would result.

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For normal Television you still get a good picture quaility from a CRT but obviously not as good as if you had an LCD or Plasma

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The picture quality of an HD CRT is far superior to the average competition you mentioned, if only for the black level alone.

Thanks for the clarification, I guess you really clear it up in your last sentence. It comes down to bitrate. How it is recorded is how you will get it.

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Originally posted by gsebs:

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You have analouge @ 500 or so but who cares anymore
Standard Digital which is DVD quaility @ 720
Then I guess you have upscaled @ around 900
Then HD @ 1080.

If the picture is compressed then you would need you viewing device to stretch the picture as the recieved picture would only fill those pixels that it recieves information for.

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Hmm, a lot of misinformation there...

First of all analog is analog, it doesn't have pixels so it can not be directly compared to digital video. Yes, a CRT has scanlines and this number varies depending on whether it is a PAL or NTSC broadcast.

Ok, onto the resolutions...

Standard DVD does not have 720 vertical lines of resolution. However it does have 720 pixels horizontally. I think this is where people get mixed up. The common HD resolutions (ie: 720p, 1080i, 1080p) refer to the vertical pixel count. PAL DVD's are 720 x 576 @ 25fps. NTSC DVD's are 720 x 480 @ 23.976fps/29.98fps. So that would make PAL 576i/p and NTSC 480i/p.

Next, upscaling is not confined to meet a certain resolution. Well expecially not "900" like you mentioned. However, at this point in time the maximum available is 1080p (1920 x 1080). So that would mean you could have options of 720p, 1080i or 1080p depending on the player.

Ok, onto compression now. Compression refers to an algorithm that an encoder uses to decimate parts of data that would pertain to visual elements that the Human eye may not see. The more modern the video encoder, the more efficient it should be at this task. As an example h264 encoded at 10,000Kbs vs MPEG2 at 10,000Kbs (with the same video) would result in the h264 video being far superior. Compression in this instance does not refer to the resolution being smaller than the screen size. Every single screen will have an inbuilt upscaler. This is a very simple process that any device is capable of.

The more important factor that I think is the main point of the discussion here is bitrate vs resolution. In advanced video termonology some of the methods used to calculate this are SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio) and PSNR (Peak Signal to Noise Ratio) etc.. A video with a resolution of 1280 x 720 (720p) encoded with h264 at 15,000Kbs should be superior to a video with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 (1080p) encoded at 5,000Kbs. Even though the latter has a higher resolution, it is starved of bitrate. So a poorer quality video with a lot of noise would result.

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ohhh god do you have a life?

Originally posted by Leningrad:

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ohhh god do you have a life?

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Yes, the breakdown goes something like this...

60 odd hours per week working on the floor of a busy Audio Visual Retailer (hence the obvious passion towards this kind of thing).

The rest is made up of gym, training, sleeping, eating and... Video games and/or a good movie when I finally find the time! Hehe...

Edit: I forgot the most important... Spending quality time with my soon to be Wife. ;-)

So, yes I can say I do have a life! :-P

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Originally posted by Ryu77:

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Edit: I forgot the most important... Spending quality time with my soon to be Wife. ;-)

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Congratulations, Ryu77.

As of January 1st, 2009, Slysoft will change its update policy from free lifetime updates to an annual subscription fee. All license purchases made before January 1st, 2009 will not be affected by this change; as promised, all licenses purchased before 2009 will still be honoured under Slysoft's free lifetime update policy.


http://www.slysoft.com/en/


WOW did anybody see this.........?

Yes, many of us did see this. Right here in an Afterdawn article on December 2.

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Originally posted by Ryu77:

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Edit: I forgot the most important... Spending quality time with my soon to be Wife. ;-)

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Congratulations, Ryu77.

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Thank you! :-)

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if you want to make a copy of your blu-ray disc, why don't folks just make a copy in real time. What I mean is this, ..connect the output of the player to an HDMI input on the computer, set it to record, and come back in an hour and a half.

You would have a few hurdles to jump (uhmm...HDCP), but anyone with a internet connection can find what they need.

Doing it this way, it will NEVER matter how secure Blu-ray disc become.

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[QUOTE]if you want to make a copy of your blu-ray disc, why don't folks just make a copy in real time. What I mean is this, ..connect the output of the player to an HDMI input on the computer, set it to record, and come back in an hour and a half.

You would have a few hurdles to jump (uhmm...HDCP), but anyone with a internet connection can find what they need.

Doing it this way, it will NEVER matter how secure Blu-ray disc become.[/QUOTE]
This would not be a bad idea except that an HDMI-recordable computer would have to have an awesome CPU, something I have but the average Joe will not. The resultant file size would be HUGE. And it wouldn't be a digital copy...there are a host of other impediments. But hey, it's possible, just not practical.

truthfully, my CPU cycles are not to bad. The only problem I've had is disk speed (recording in raw format). I used a raid 0 setup for a while, but now to compensate for the disk speed needed, I use the "motion JPEG codec" to capture.

But yeah, I see your point. An average movie was over 1 TB in size (raw).

Point is.... I could do it. (I also captured DD ac3 5.1) :)

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Looks like Slysoft have done it again well before the Feb deadline first given !!!
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=24603

Good job on the heads-up Mossman70
You KNOW the Slysoft crew put in big overtime to get this done so fast.
Still the best program for backups you can buy!

Originally posted by Blessedon:

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Good job on the heads-up Mossman70
You KNOW the Slysoft crew put in big overtime to get this done so fast.
Still the best program for backups you can buy!

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AnyDVD & AnyDVD HD 6.5.0.3

6.5.0.3 2008 12 29
- New (Blu-ray): More support for new version of the BD+ copy protection

http://www.slysoft.com/en/download.html?aid=50081

http://static.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD_50081.exe

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"First of all analog is analog, it doesn't have pixels so it can not be directly compared to digital video. Yes, a CRT has scanlines and this number varies depending on whether it is a PAL or NTSC broadcast."

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You are right and then you are wrong. A CRT does have pixels, in the old days they were round but then Sony came out with their Trinitron which used rectangles instead. The scan lines are what the CRT HV beam scans across illuminating the phosphorus pixels behind the CRT screen. We could gett into this much deeper and get into chroma and other things but as to your initial point it is true Analog isn't digital.

It's great that Slysoft has broken the new BD+ I don't have any of the movies under that new protection yet but good to hear.

Here is a link to the press release for the movies affected:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=24602

Here is the press release from that thread:

Press Release: SlySoft defeats Blu-ray's BD+ DRM scheme again
For Immediate Release

Antigua, West Indies - December, 29th 2008


SlySoft defeats Blu-ray's BD+ DRM scheme again

Despite some sites reporting that "SlySoft has been beaten", the
Antiguan company renowned for promoting Fair Use Rights has effectively defeated BD+ once again and much earlier than expected; the cat and mouse game of DRM has entered the next round.

Although newer BD+ decryption wasn't expected until February 2009,
today's AnyDVD HD 6.5.0.2 release decrypts copy protection on all
current Blu-ray movies and, in turn, ensures that consumers may continue to backup and enjoy their Blu-ray movie purchases even when using computer monitors that are not HDCP compliant. In fact, AnyDVD HD remains the only program that can decrypt all commercial Blu-ray
releases, and this incredible magic is, as per usual with AnyDVD HD,
performed on the fly without requiring users to rip first to their hard drives.

The following is a selection of current Blu-ray releases supported by
AnyDVD HD:

Futurama: Bender's Game (U.S.)
Firefly, The Complete Series (U.S.)
Planet of the Apes (1968 ) (U.S.)
Predator 2 (1990)
Shine a Light (U.K)
Planet of the Apes (the series), U.S.
Space Chimps, USA
Meet Dave, USA
X-Files 2
X-Files 1
Home Alone
The Day The Earth Stood Still: Special Edition
Jingle All The Way
Super Troopers
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
Horton hears a Who
French Connection I & II (UK)
In the Name of the King (US)
Vanishing Point (Germany)
Babylon A.D.


Customers are reminded that SlySoft will change its update policy from
free lifetime updates to an annual subscription fee on January 1st, so
this is the last chance to buy SlySoft products with free lifetime
updates. Those buyers who act quickly during this time can also save an additional 20% with SlySoft's special ongoing Christmas promotion at www.slysoft.com.

can some one please tell me which post is stretching the page margins so I can edit it? Cant seem to pinpoint it.

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sorted :)
it was an obscure [ code ] parameter (whatever that is). Changed to [ quote ]

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