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Kazaa, BearShare, Morpheus and LimeWire are stealing from websites

30 September 2002 5:41 by Petteri "dRD" Pyyny | 31 comments

My respect to virtually any P2P networks has just hit the rock bottom, after I found out that major P2P tools, including Morpheus, Kazaa, BearShare and LimeWire are stealing money from thousands of websites around the world, including ours. They have secretly bundled a new type of software to their tools, in addition to their existing privacy-violating spyware tools, that can be only described as stealware.

How this piece of evil works? Whenever you decide to purchase something from the Net, the stealware that is installed on your computer -- and it is running even when your P2P software is not running! -- kicks in and checks if the store you're buying from, has an affiliate system that the P2P software vendor is using. If so, software simply replaces the existing affiliate cookie on your browser with its own cookie. This means that if you want to support AfterDawn.com and purchase books, software, etc using the Amazon.com links or other similiar links on our site, the small commission money actually goes to Kazaa, Morpheus, BearShare or LimeWire instead of our site. Same applies to all sites in the world -- charities, who try to raise money by affiliate programs, etc.

Because of this, we have decided to remove Morpheus and BearShare from our site and recommend our users to use alternative P2P tools, such as DC++, Direct Connect or WinMX.

Here are the simple instructions also how to remove the stealware pieces -- removing them might alter your P2P software so that it doesn't work after you've removed the stealware. But then again, supporting software vendors who go as low as this, is something that we all should avoid.

Remove the stealware called BUYERSPORT:

-Click the Start button.
-Click on Find.
-Click on Find Files or Folders.
-Type in mbho.dll. Click on find now. When the file appears in the directory window, drag mbho.dll into the trash or hit Delete.

Remove the stealware called LIMESHOP (comes with LimeWire):

-Click the Start button.
-Click on Settings.
-Click Control Panel.
-Double-click Add/Remove Programs.
-Click LimeShop.
-Click Add/Remove.

Remove the stealware called SAVENOW (comes with Kazaa):

-Click on Start.
-Click Settings.
-Click on Control Panel.
-Double-click on Add/Remove Programs.
-Click SaveNow.
-Click on Add/Remove.


...and to verify that all spyware/crapware has been completely removed, we strongly suggest that you install a software called Ad-Aware to your computer and run it every now and then. You can download Ad-Aware, which is free, from http://www.lavasoftusa.com/.

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    chriso123 (Member) 1 October 2002 6:58 Send private message to this user   
    This new money stealer is just plain sick.

    Also Dela, to remove Savenow go to Start>Run>Type msconfig in the run box>Click the Startup tab>Uncheck the checkbox next to Savenow (in the list)>Click OK

    That should remove Savenow.

    -Chris
    ABCman (Inactive) 1 October 2002 7:31 Send private message to this user   
    I use edonkey to download a lot of stuff. It has a lot of servers bases out of europe and some in the States also. The great thing about edonkey is you usually get what you think you are getting. None of this childish renameing files to something they are not. I am not sure on the spyware. I dont think it has any. I also plan on downloading Kazaalite. I tried DC and HATE it!!! It is so hard to find what you are looking for if you can even get in a sever....Most of them want you to have 10-15 gigs shared. I have upped my shared limit over what some of them want and it still says I dont have enought. If you can figure edonkey out and read the info on the site about how to get the most out of it ....you will be hard pressed to find anything better for finding what you want. The only bad thing I guess I can find with edonkey is the speed can be kinda low from time to time.
    ABCman (Inactive) 1 October 2002 7:33 Send private message to this user   
    oh yeah the page to edonkey (as if most you dont know already) is www.edonkey2000.com
    Dela (Staff Member) 1 October 2002 7:43 Send private message to this user   
    Direct Connect is the best of em all. You just have to get used to the fact that the more you share the more files open to you. You can get movies and stuff there that other p2p networks dream about.

    I have forgotten that address for the cd_clint.dll (I dunno how I typed that message without it!!!). I'll find it again of coarse. There is another site on the net where you can search for it and will find it but if you are offended by excessive porn content then forget it!! http://www.cracks.am
    Ghostdog (Senior Member) 1 October 2002 9:09 Send private message to this user   
    God damn! This is taking it too far. Spyware and adware is already bad enough, but this...
    Some sites are run freely because of the income from this kind of stuff. I couldnīt find any of the mentioned files/apps, another good thing about KazaaLite.

    Isnīt it also directly illegal?
    Itīs right-out stealing.

    BTW dRD, where did you get the info? You didnīt mention a source. Itīs not that I donīt trust AD, just craving for some more info.


    Dela: Or use a pop-up eliminator, Opera has this feature in the settings-menu. Donīt worry dRD, I donīt block your adds.

    BeerPeer (Junior Member) 1 October 2002 10:10 Send private message to this user   
    In the Finnish language version of this site, dRD gives New York Times as the source, but does not specify a URL. (Leaving the source out from the English translation must have been an oversight on his part.)

    Anyway, NYT is not the only source on this, as this has in fact been confirmed already a couple of months back by other sources.

    This is an issue that deserves a lot more publicity, questionable practices like that must be stopped.
    dRD (I hate titles) 1 October 2002 11:02 Send private message to this user   
    Ah, sorry.. Oversight from my part, the source was New York Times and direct URL in Finnish site wasn't provided, since their registration page seemed to time out when accessing to the page directly. Anyway, it's from last week's Friday, if you go to the site, log in and browse archives.
    slboss926 (Inactive) 1 October 2002 11:06 Send private message to this user   
    is there any p2p that dont have all the porn crap on them?
    MrFat (Inactive) 1 October 2002 12:08 Send private message to this user   
    Thanx! I already use WinMX and eDonkey, i just like being "DESTRUCTIVE", when it comes to "spyware", "adware",and F'N, "stealware!"
    But I must agree, the verdict is still out on "Direct Connect". I'm still in the tinkering mode, can't seem to "con-nect".


    Guess the worlds not ready for "High Speed Dial-Up!?
    passh (Inactive) 1 October 2002 17:07 Send private message to this user   
    Hi, I want to publish a frontal campaing against Kazaa and other harmful p2p software. Where I can get more and precise information.
    A_Klingon (Moderator) 1 October 2002 23:12 Send private message to this user   
    BeerPeer:

    If you can read/understand the Finnish language, I truly envy you!!!

    Dag Nab It! Not that it will likely be very helpful to me, as I can't understand a dang word of Fin, but anyway, what's the url for the Finnish site?

    (I can only grovel at the posts found therein, but I'd like to check 'em out anyway).

    Many thanks,

    -- Mike --
    Ghostdog (Senior Member) 2 October 2002 8:40 Send private message to this user   
    www.fin.afterdawn.com

    The news article:

    http://fin.afterdawn.com/uutiset/arkisto/3391.cfm
    Ghostdog (Senior Member) 2 October 2002 8:41 Send private message to this user   
    A_Klingon (Moderator) 3 October 2002 1:02 Send private message to this user   
    Ouuuuu!

    This can be tricky!

    Seems that after penning a short message to one of the Finnish forums (I know not which one), my "cookie" got corrupted and/or changed! ("That'll LEARN me").

    Gee, I hope *this* message 'takes'.

    (Yeah, Ghostdog, it a 'happening' place over there!)

    -- Mike --
    swadmim (Newbie) 9 October 2002 2:12 Send private message to this user   
    Taking this one step further, stealware is parasitic in a way that destroys itself and the businesses it feeds off of.

    1) becuase revenues fall affilaite based sites can't survive

    2) if they dissapear who will stealware steal from?

    Stealware completely distroys affiliate marketing as a valid online revenue model. The implications of this from a business perspective are huge.

    ------------------
    Spyware Watch (UK)
    http://www.spyware.co.uk
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    chod (Newbie) 1 November 2002 3:24 Send private message to this user   
    You are all full of it!
    Think about this: when you download some software, chances are you're using it illegally, i.e. without a license.
    If that's not stealing then I don't know what is!
    I admit I download stuff that isn't mine, but then again I'm not complaining if the people who provide such facilities make a little bit out of it too. Who cares? After all, I've downloaded THOUSANDS of pounds worth of stuff all for FREE!
    nickrock (Newbie) 23 April 2003 11:14 Send private message to this user   
    i have "limeshop" which causes my browser to have the most annoying window on the left. with advertisements and their own search results. it is driving me bananas , to the point i dont even use search engines anymore.
    i go to LIMESHOP under add/remove programs and when i try to remove it, it says ERROR can not find path specified. if anyone can help me, please email me at *edit by Jannejt.. another 3-4 years old post. =)* THANK U!!!

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5 December 2006 10:13

    passh (Inactive) 24 April 2003 21:48 Send private message to this user   
    nickrock, try Ad-Aware 6, its the best product to remove spywares and advertisements. Try it and buy it from www.lavasoft.de
    nickrock (Newbie) 8 June 2003 23:57 Send private message to this user   
    i fixed the problem .. i basically deleted everything and got some program i forgot what it was but if anyone has the problem i can find it. just email me. i now use kazaalite, its so great, no spyware,
    *edit by Jannejt.. why do you guys even report these old offensive posts? i think spambots got those emails years ago =)*
    nick morano ny ny

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5 December 2006 10:14

    Morgwen (Inactive) 7 January 2004 12:00 Send private message to this user   
    Why donīt you sue them?

    eMule is the way to go. Its open source an uses the donkey network.
    FlakMNKEY (Junior Member) 7 August 2006 20:56 Send private message to this user   
    I'm waving the bullshit flag on afterdawn. I checked for these programs in my add remove list and never found them listed. also did scan's and searches nothing came up
    dRD (I hate titles) 8 August 2006 0:10 Send private message to this user   
    FlakMNKEY: Hopefully you understand that you're reading an article from year 2002 (it states it clearly below the article title..), things change in four years -- bad publicity has forced the companies who conducted **it like this to behave.
    A_Klingon (Moderator) 8 August 2006 4:40 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    I'm waving the bullshit flag on afterdawn.
    Now you be nice, FlakMNKEY, or I might be tempted to wave 'bye-bye' to you.

    A lot of water has flowed under the bridge since 2002. Where in heaven's name have you been?

    @dRD:
    Quote:
    Hopefully you understand that you're reading an article from year 2002 ...
    (Hmmmmm.....) Didn't a little birdie mention to me recently, something about .... "200 days past the date of the last post within the thread"

    OK, let's see..... [..... last post in thread was by newbie 'Morgwen' on January 7, 2004, so that's like.....[counting on fingers & toes] ... ummmm....]

    Oh Wow! Now that's what I call "200 days! <ggg>
    dRD (I hate titles) 8 August 2006 4:44 Send private message to this user   
    Klingy: Ah, the 200-day limit doesn't apply to news comments :-)
    malh (Newbie) 11 November 2007 7:21 Send private message to this user   
    "Get Pro for a single payment of only Ģ21.95". LOL
    What they don't tell you, if you do not update:
    Limewire will hack your computer and cut you downloads to 4 hosts;
    They will keep flashing the folowing message in red and black altinating:
    " A newer version is available, update? ". ..Underlined.

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26 November 2007 14:35

    A_Klingon (Moderator) 25 November 2007 16:23 Send private message to this user   
    Oh My Gosh! ....

    I just gotta give credit to AfterDawn - this is awesome - whether 'News Reports' or regular forum posts, receiving email notices from past posts (5 Year's ago) is simply outstanding!

    (From this, I assume that A/D intends on hangin' around for awhile?) <ggg> ;-)
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