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IFPI ("the mother of all RIAAs..")

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If that's the case then they are one big mother allright!

I for one am ecstatic over these new lawsuits!
The more people they can piss off in more countries means more hatred and loathing for them world wide.

Yes, I know for whom the bell tolls (and sorry Metallica... I'm not stealing your title from a song, a title that you stole from somewhere else first lmao btw... fcuking sellouts!)

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I for one am ecstatic over these new lawsuits!

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I'm glad you didn't say that you wax ecstatic duckNrun, or you would have had to apologize to Sponge along with Metallica. :) http://music.yahoo.com/release/61383

"the record labelsl jihad" HAHAHA

wont it be funny if all did so they be right an we be right how so well we would all use P2P and do what there saying where doing and second we all get sued haha can you see that then they be happy more like happy poor cuz there wouldn't be a customer left at all no customers no artist no music = No RIAA F the corp. world greedy lil mofo's

You said it GREED. What about people that bought records and cassettes? Do they expect you to buy the same music in every new format that comes out?

yes they do. And even more than that....

If you want to listen to your music at home and work you should buy 2 cd's...one for home and one for work! And another for the mp3 player where you plan to stick most of your music as well!

They now realize that they really dont like the idea of portable music and Sony (while enjoying the money they made off the Walkman) probably somewhat wish they didn't create it (though they still would like to keep the money from it!)

After reading your article, looks like a discrimination lawsuit in in order against the IFPI. can you tell me why they are only sueing young men. Why no older men or women or for that matter teenagers
sounds very gender orientated to me. The people who receive these lawsuits should tell the IPFI to get stuffed. I hope these peoples lawyers have a field day with these greedy idiots.

It's funny. Since all this RIAA/MPAA lawsuit frenzy started I have re-discovered my passion for reading and classical music...

Why don't they just sue the whole ***king world and get it over with! ***HOLES

The sad truth seems to be a little more evident every day. Especially since most, if not all of the cases against Joe Average have been won without a trial, by the Music Mob. There's no way anyone can afford to risk losing the obscene amount of money that the IFPI and their ilk will surely be rewarded as whatever rights we have left, consumer or otherwise, as world citizens are seemingly for sale to the highest bidder.
Yes this sends a not so happy message to the kids of today. It really doesn't matter how you play the game, as long as your golf partner is the Mayor. Rich Uncle Pennybags has beaten us again. "Haven't you learned your lesson yet?" he asks. Then, with a broad beaming smile, he serves you an enormous excrement enchilada.

Who are the real criminals here?

The individual downloading music?
(which has no extra costs associated with the reproduced copy, we can all do that free in our own time with free software)

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the IFPI, RIAA etc, who believe its fair to sue the individual for thousands?
add court costs and a possible criminal record, this could make life extremely hard for the individual if not destroying them, breaking up families and adding to further problems.

Seems a little unjust and excessive for something which has little worth (except to the money hungry ****ers who want the latest bmw) and allows music to spread, be enjoyed by those less fortunate to have lots of cash and allows us to TRY BEFORE we BUY!!!

Music brings so much goodness to ones soul. Let the goodness of music infect us ALL!!!

rondack,

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I'm fairly uninformed on this P2P stuff. What about the sites where you pay an annual fee to download music etc. ie: My Music.com Legal or not?

I don't know for sure, reelcheck, but it seems like for every positive news report regarding P2P -

http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5316570.html

there are at least two negative reports.

http://www.techspot.com/news/19385-grokster-shuts-down.html

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=10292494&src=rss/technologyNews

Organizations like the RIAA and the MPAA seem to subscribe to the theory of using a Tomahawk missle to take out a wasp's nest.

Sorry they just tick me off. I'll watch it in the future.

these P2P's are funny, the Grokster types strive to stay alive with any pocket cents to keep the website open which barely pays for the hosting, then get slapped with a $50 million fine. Why not just roll these dollars before into the business model and try going ligit ? Forget about this P2P crap, it cetainly doesn't bring in enough revenue in the long run, besides the majors hold 90% of the business anyway.
My dig is, if you have a band then start your own website and promote internally, just like the old days until you GET NOTICED !! If you suck, then somebody will tell you sooner or later as you'll soon find just your neighbors will show up for your low paying gigs.

sorry to be so crass....

thanks for the info. I guess it's best to go to a pay-by-the-song site and cough up the .99!!!

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I guess it's best to go to a pay-by-the-song site and cough up the .99!!!

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I'd say it's best not to support the music industry at all, but that's just my opinion.

I agree with nonoitall!

They just don't get it.

These lawsuits aren't doing anything to endear themselves to consumers, and all the DRM BS which has been going on recently isn't helping either...

There is so much music available online - and much of it is 100% legal - that I could easily go the rest of my life without ever buying another CD again, and still never suffer from a lack of new music to listen to!

(and chances are, that is exactly what I will do)

For example, follow this link if you want to see a smorgasbord of FREE and LEGAL music to download:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php

And of course, we all know that there are countless sources for not-so-legal downloads. To put it very simply, we don't need the music industry any more. If every single major record label went out of business tomorrow, none of us would miss them.

What can they do, to survive? I don't know, but I do know this: Alienating their customers with lawsuits and copy protection is NOT the answer!

Maybe they should all go work for the oil industry instead.

I've bought thousands of dollars worth of CDs from middle school through early college. I also D/l them, but hey we can't all afford what we'd like to hear. I figure if I was sued for d/l something, it would cost me much more then all the CDs I bought over the years. (And most of those scratched up, damaged CDs i keep in my garage)

If the RIAA keeps this up, [B]I will stop the purchase of all music[/B] and they will never again get a single dime of my money. Is that what they want? P**s off the ppl enough, and that is what will be coming. Jerkoffs.

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They just don't get it.

These lawsuits aren't doing anything to endear themselves to consumers, and all the DRM BS which has been going on recently isn't helping either...

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I Honestly believe that they don't have a clue about how to relate to consumers in today's world. Ever since the days of having only 3 channels on TV and all music sold was on vinyl, they were the only game in town and it was their way or the highway. They never have had to look at their consumers as anything but a bunch of helpless suckers who were just made to be ripped-off and taken advantage of. Certainly not as customers who should be catered to, or even treated fairly, for that matter. Well thanks to a little thing known as technology, they are no longer the only game in town, and frankly, this ticks them off to no end. Just like a spoiled brat who has had his lollipop taken away by his mother, they are lashing out in anger, which is the only thing that they know how to do. I believe that their thinking is that they can legislate away all of this technology and thereby put the genie back in their bottle. God help us all if they do succeed.

Bring it on. I will just sit back and watch the record industry self destruct.
Protecting Intellectual property. That's a laugh because there is very little intelligence in the rubbish the record companies pump out.
Would love to see which Argentinian court would even hear a suit brought on by a prominently USA orginization.

SamTheDog

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