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24 January 2006 23:05 by James "Dela" Delahunty
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The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) has amusingly been accused of piracy for making an unauthorised copy of a documentary that was submitted for a rating. The documentary, "This Film Is Not Yet Rated", explores how the MPAA rating system works, and questions some issues such as whether there are stricter standards for rating explicit depictions of sex than for gruesome violence and whether independent films are rated more harshly than studio films. The MPAA admitted to making the copy of the movie, which was viewed by the MPAA President Dan Glickman.
Although while the trade organisation has in fact admitted to copying the movie without the filmmaker's permission, it denies that it broke copyright laws and accuses movie director Kirby Dick of exploiting the situation as a publicity stunt. Dick said he was "very upset and troubled" to discover that the MPAA had copied the film from a digital version he submitted for a rating. His lawyer, Michael Donaldson, has demanded that all copies of the film be returned and an explanation of how this unauthorised copy was approved.
The MPAA has defended itself by accusing Dick of invading the privacy of its movie raters. "We made a copy of Kirby's movie because it had implications for our employees," said Kori Bernards, the MPAA's vice president for corporate communications. She accuses Dick of spying on members of the MPAA's Classification and Rating Administration, even going through their garbage and following them as they drop their kids off at school.
"We were concerned about the raters and their families," Bernards said. She said the MPAA's copy of This Film Is Not Yet Rated is locked away, and is not being copied or distributed. Donaldson claims that the MPAA had previously promised to not make any copies of the movie, but an email exchange doesn't fully support that claim. When Dick asked that no copies be made, an MPAA representative replied and said "the confidentiality of your film ... is our first priority. Please feel assure (sic) that your film is in good hands."
Dick claims the MPAA's accusations are false, and that his film crew had acted appropriately in tracking down the anonymous members of the ratings board and even if he didn't follow the rules, he didn't know how that allows somebody else to break the law. Donaldson said he had no plans to sue the MPAA for copyright infringement, but it could be a possibility in future. "It's my practice and style to wait and see what they do, go over all of our options, and then make a decision," he said.
As for the MPAA's claim that it hasn't broken the law, Bernards did elaborate further. "The courts recognize that parties are entitled to make a copy of a work for use as evidence in possible future proceedings," she said. The MPAA has not yet taken any legal action against Dick, they had previously called the police to report that movie raters were being stalked. They had no idea they were being filmed as part of a documentary.
This Film Is Not Yet Rated was rated NC-17 for "some graphic sexual content," a rating upheld after Dick appealed.
Source:
Calendarlive.com
Thanks to Daniel_G for News Submission
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| dufas (Member) 26 January 2006 19:08 |
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Many large companies work in the same way...
There was an expensive power tool missing from the tool bin at one of the places that I had once worked. The management looked up the record of the last person to use the tool, accused him of stealing and fired him. The next monday, I had to go to the office to get some blueprints and overheard the managers talking. The tool had been returned, it was 'borrowed' by one of the managers who had taken a few personal days off the week before and brought the tool back when he came in. All the managers were laughing about the mistake and the 'firing ' of the guy that worked in the shop. They thought it was one of the funniest things that has happened in months. They didn't even refer to him as a person, they called him 'one of the bodies...'
Most company people that I have come across can care less about the average person, they are beneath them.
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| YOBUZZB (Member) 26 January 2006 21:04 |
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@ DUFAS
Of course, you told someone in authority, what you heard right? You pursued this until the guy got his job back right? You, at least, testified on his behalf when he sued for wrongful termination and loss of benefits and wages, right? You called the local newspaper and told them the story, right?
My point is that all it takes for bad things to succeed, is for good men do nothing! That's a quote!
The RIAA/MPAA will do as they please as long as we are silent! Posting our little wise-cracks on this site and others, doesn't stop them. Until we send them a clear message with one voice, they'll do what they damn well please. I bought it. It's mine. You can't tell me what I can and can't do with my property. I'll copy it as many times as I damn well please!
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| YOBUZZB (Member) 26 January 2006 21:05 |
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@ DUFAS
Of course, you told someone in authority, what you heard right? You pursued this until the guy got his job back right? You, at least, testified on his behalf when he sued for wrongful termination and loss of benefits and wages, right? You called the local newspaper and told them the story, right?
My point is that all it takes for bad things to succeed, is for good men to do nothing! That's a quote!
The RIAA/MPAA will do as they please as long as we are silent! Posting our little wise-cracks on this site and others, doesn't stop them. Until we send them a clear message with one voice, they'll do what they damn well please. I bought it. It's mine. You can't tell me what I can and can't do with my property. I'll copy it as many times as I damn well please!
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 26 January 2006 22:54 |
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The do aswesayandnot aswe doapproach is allvery well, but if you break the law, you break the law, and that's the end of that!
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| bluedogs (Junior Member) 26 January 2006 23:25 |
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true im not saying they are right hell there government funded and therefore will have the attitude of do as we say not as we do like just about any government dept.
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| adg (Junior Member) 27 January 2006 0:48 |
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Intrestingly enough I put I dvd / film database on ebay, it was to run in Access 2000. I was not selling Access but a blank database for users to enter there own collections. Within that database I had included links to dvd sites, LEGAL dvd sites such as play.com and others. I listed it as including weblink to these sites, all LEGAL, the MPAA had my ebay account closed because they claimed it infringed copyright. They made an incorrect assumption about the links. I took a look at the MPAA web site and following links from that site within sceonds I had links to download DivX movies. I sent them an email asking about the legality but heard nothing back so I took a look at the site again the DivX link had gone but there was still a link to download movies through P2P, they wont respond to my emails asking about it, also from the site you get a link direct to dvd copy software that will bypass cess... One rule for one and one for the rest of us. They wont even answer my emails....
Ady
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 27 January 2006 0:58 |
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I wonder why... LOL
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| dufas (Member) 27 January 2006 6:25 |
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YOBUZZB said...."@ DUFAS
Of course, you told someone in authority, what you heard right? You pursued this until the guy got his job back right? You, at least, testified on his behalf when he sued for wrongful termination and loss of benefits and wages, right? You called the local newspaper and told them the story, right?"
First, It was the upper management that was joking about the situation......
Second, the guy that was fired was informed and he didn't want to do anything about it......
Third, Management has no clue...Everyone sort of gave management the cold shoulder, some guys even told management how they felt about the situation and management didn't seem to understand the ethics involved. The higher-ups thought that employees were making a big deal out of nothing..
Fourth, The work was the type that has lay-offs every few weeks. We would be off work for a week or so and then another job would come in and everyone would come back to work. After the 'stolen tool' incident, people that were laid-off found other jobs and never returned to that company, myself included. Since many key people found work elswhere and the company's reputaion grew as to what they thought of employees, many of the managers had to do the work themselves. To make a long story short, that one 'tool' fiasco cost the company millions, they gained a bad reputation not only with the working people but also with their customers because the management could never finish a job on time. The local shop closed around three years ago...
Sort of like the thinking of the MPAA...Screw as many customers as they can and then cry that business is going down.......
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| Necronomx (Newbie) 27 January 2006 7:13 |
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Poetic justice, I like it!!
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| skaroonie (Newbie) 27 January 2006 10:33 |
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funny stuff. the association that is trying to band torrents is accused. i laugh in their faces :P
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 27 January 2006 13:17 |
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You mean you haven't been doing that already?
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| YOBUZZB (Member) 27 January 2006 16:01 |
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@ DUFAS
I appreciate the elaboration and I stand corrected. In short, you all did something about it! Word of mouth is a powerful thing in a community!
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| Tokijin (AfterDawn Addict) 27 January 2006 22:30 |
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The case got thrown out because they burned it to CMC Mag media and it wouldn't boot in the Judge's DVD player lol.
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 28 January 2006 1:24 |
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Lol indeed!
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| spiesfan (Member) 28 January 2006 6:44 |
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funny
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| Jlhfit (Senior Member) 29 January 2006 11:38 |
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I copied Spiderman, cause damn it, he has the same powers as me! I may sue them biotches one day for making a movie bout my life, exposing my secret and putting my family into harms way!!!
I also copied Star Wars 3 cause my ex wife looks like one of the aliens in the back gound, she did not give permission to use her idenity!!! DAMN IT!!!
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| Ne007 (Junior Member) 29 January 2006 16:53 |
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Yeh..you can come up with ANY reason why you planned on suing the RIAA/MPAA!
Hey! THEY STOLE MY BEAT. THEY STOLE MY LYRICS!
I PLANNED ON SUING YOU GUYS! I MADE A COPY! WHOOOHOO!
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| pigfister (Inactive) 1 February 2006 2:34 |
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Not surprisingly the bbc.co.uk web site nor any English news papers or any of the televised news programs covered this story, does this mean we live in a two tiered society where government and companies can do what they want regardless of the laws? Its seems that way to me even peace protesters in the UK are now considered to be terrorists! [URL] http://www.parliament-square.org.uk/index.htm[/URL]So we live in a false democracy, a police state, who thought any different it has been that way for years? Control through religion I hear you all say lol @ us citizens sry but you are so blind!!!
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| pigfister (Inactive) 1 February 2006 2:36 |
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sry double post but the link wrong!
Not surprisingly the bbc.co.uk web site nor any English news papers or any of the televised news programs covered this story, does this mean we live in a two tiered society where government and companies can do what they want regardless of the laws? Its seems that way to me even peace protesters in the UK are now considered to be terrorists! http://www.parliament-square.org.uk/index.htm
So we live in a false democracy, a police state, who thought any different it has been that way for years? Control through religion I hear you all say lol @ us citizens.
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| Tokijin (AfterDawn Addict) 1 February 2006 9:07 |
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That's funny, I've been saying that about the U.S. The media over hear is very selective about what they cover. You hear about which celebrity is boffing who, or getting arrested, but never about things like global warming, terrorism, the environment, and the war. Hell our last election was about gay people getting married, something that affects 10% of our population at most. Last time I checked, the environment, global warming, and terrorism affected 100% of the population.
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 1 February 2006 10:34 |
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Tell me about it, and if you don't mind me saying so, the kyoto agreement fiasco gets me cross as well.
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| pigfister (Inactive) 2 February 2006 23:59 |
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| Tokijin (AfterDawn Addict) 3 February 2006 0:51 |
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That might have a little more credibly if didn't come from a guy with nick "Pigfister." I think beastiality is against forum rules lol.
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| pigfister (Inactive) 3 February 2006 0:54 |
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that would be fista not mine which is fister! :-0
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| Tokijin (AfterDawn Addict) 3 February 2006 1:11 |
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Lol. It's definitely original. Maybe I'll get another nick called "Rectal Warts."
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| sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 3 February 2006 3:42 |
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If you like, I'm not stopping you.
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