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eD2K Razorback servers seized

22 February 2006 4:12 by James "Dela" Delahunty | 107 comments

Any big users of the eDonkey2000 network will already have noticed that huge servers such as Razorback2 seem to have disappeared. The Federal Belgian Police raided and seized the servers yesterday. For those not familiar with how an ed2k server works, it does not host any files, either copyrighted or other, but it does index their location on the network. The eDonkey2000 network consists of many servers located around the world that work in a similar way.

In addition to the servers being seized, Swiss authorities arrested the site's operator at his residence in Switzerland and searched his home. The push behind the legal action came from the Motion Picture Association (MPA). "This is a major victory in our fight to cut off the supply of illegal materials being circulated on the Internet via peer-to-peer networks," said Motion Picture Association (MPA) Chairman and CEO Dan Glickman. "By shaving the illegal traffic of copyrighted works facilitated by Razorback2, we are depleting other illegal networks of their ability to supply Internet pirates with copyrighted works which is a positive step in our international effort to fight piracy."

The Press Release issued is full of spin once again. The MPA claims the actions were aimed at cutting off a major supply and facilitator of illegal files to several popular illegal file swapping networks. Firstly, how are file sharing networks illegal? Copyright infringement taking place on the network may be illegal depending on where you live, but the networks themselves remain legal. Also, I don't see how Razorback2 was there to supply other networks of illegal files, remember Razorback2 hosted no files, it was an eD2K server.

The MPA also claimed that the motive for running the server was financial because it collected donations and made money from advertisements on its website (which were sometimes pornographic). The MPA knows that many of the top file sharing software companies make a profit from their software through advertising, this has nothing to do with making money from piracy. With the same argument you could sue Google, or perhaps manufacturers of blank media because piracy probably makes up a large percentage of their use.

The MPA also decided to go back to another aspect of P2P that has been screamed by entertainment companies in the past; some people shared child pornography or terrorism videos (bomb making videos, they claim). Firstly, child pornography is something 99% of P2P users would prefer is not shared on their favorite networks. That being said, people also would have preferred if DVDs and VHS tapes weren't used in the trade of child pornography, or that newsgroups aren't used for the purpose. However, with any technology, there will always be abuse.

According to anti-child porn groups, the biggest child pornography problems on the net come from sources like Russian & Japanese sites. The MPA doesn't care about this though because it doesn't need to discredit Russian sites (or others) to justify a raid on a P2P server. As for terrorism videos and bomb making instructions, what exactly qualifies as this type of material? Would the movie "Fight Club" qualify for example? If you wanted to blow up something, this movie might provide you with small details that can help and provide you with the motivation, but its not a terrorism video because its "art" apparently.

I don't think the availability of bomb making instructions on a P2P network will spur a massive number of terrorist killers around the world, and rest assured that existing terrorist groups know already how to make bombs and don't need to find instructional videos. You can be also sure that most sharers of that kind of material share it because it interests them to know how its done, not because they want to be the next group mentioned on CNN. Again, let's remember that the Razorback servers hosted no child pornography or terrorist training videos, these were shared by users of the eD2K P2P network.

"Razorback2 was not just an enormous index for Internet users engaged in illegal file swapping, it was a menace to society," said Executive Vice President and Worldwide Anti-Piracy Director John G. Malcolm. "I applaud the Swiss and Belgian authorities for their actions which are helping thwart Internet piracy around the world." Since the Razorback servers didn't host any files, the files were instead traded by users; the enormous amount of people who used the Razorback servers all the time will simply move on to other available eD2K servers, which means the content is still on the network and the closure of the Razorback servers will just be a hiccup.

It will be interesting to see how this develops in the near future.

Source:
Slyck


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hot_ice (Senior Member) 4 March 2006 16:14 Send private message to this user   
Arab muslims seem not to evolve in some regions in the world. Unless they are modern, which in most cases isn't really the case.

The rest of your text I read through it and the only thing I can say is FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET SPELLCHECK!!!
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 5 March 2006 1:23 Send private message to this user   
hot_ice
*L* nuts anythign more than 4 wrods I should grind thru a spellchecker >< going to test goggles soon its saposed to be easy,I wish someone would make a thundrbird spellchecker for Firefox..well there is one but ti dosent work ><

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sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 5 March 2006 3:36 Send private message to this user   
I read all that, I'm quite proud of myself. I kind of agree with what you're saying too, especially about Political correctness. I think the US has taken letigiousness far too far.

Oh and here's your post as I interpreted it. Forgive me if i misunderstood:

"Bear with me here, Jihad had its place (basically a call to arms to stop invaders or other large scale things for those under the same tribe/government - the same as was needed 2000-5000 years ago)

Nowadays its like cross burnings in the 30's-50s, a bunch of ignorant folk get together and try and pull lame s**t just becuse they can...
Sorry if I am dumbing this down too much...its like the Arabs are the slowest evolving culture on the planet - they seem to be in the time of trails state - a cross between england's middle ages and the USA's Social revolution of the 30's (women voters - Oh my god! Women have rights?) and 60-70s (blacks and other NON normal non power groups have rights? whats this!?!?).

I look at it as growing pains - every culture has them, they just (that bit was unintelligible)

As for the "religion of peace" the P-C mentality in the USA is clinging to that a bit to much I think.....every religion wants to be peaceful but depending on the times and what they can get away with, anything can happen and that goes for ANY religion as well.

I wonder if it's like the racism with the jews and blacks in the US, since the jews have been quietly melting in the pot with the rest of us the blacks bitch about everything every other day and dont seem to be melting well.
For the rest of us ....its a "the more you talk about it the more you find it but the less you talk about it and get used to treating everyone like humans the more it goes away" thing....

Don't mind me this is a WTF brain burp for me and I will add this:
This is not in anyway a smudge or disrespect of anyone or anything, merely a thought that the sqeeky wheel dose not always get the grease. Sorry if I had gone off topic - when I heard them talking about it on PBS I nearly fell out of my chair, although they were covering alot of black topics in it, talking about Bill Cosby's "distaste" of Pop culture and modern black culture as a whole and lack of respect for anything, and so on and so forth. They talked about it all and it kind of made sense to me....

While I am making my grave I want to finish with the shcool teacher that got kicked out for comparing bush to hitler.....lets all think about this...both are using smoke and mirrors to rally the poll. Bush wants power to put us into corpate purgatory, Hitler wanted power to rule the world...I dont think Bush could rule his way out of a paper sack (I should know I have trouble with them sometimes) but anyway are they the same? No.
Are there correlations? Yes. The republican faithful that wanted the teacher out said all the kids heard were "Bush is like hitler"

Thats the 10 sec pop AD they're puting out to quash anyone who sees a sad and scary coraltion between the two.....now that my grave is made, complain, rant, PM all you want. If any mod thinks I have bitten off more than I can chew, please feeel free to edit it in any way you want since I have gone off topic into lololand *L*"

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hot_ice (Senior Member) 5 March 2006 15:42 Send private message to this user   
@sammoris

good effort on your part.
sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 7:21 Send private message to this user   
I was bored. Lol.

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hot_ice (Senior Member) 6 March 2006 7:50 Send private message to this user   
Figured.
sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 8:27 Send private message to this user   
But in addition to that, it's a nice helpful gesture to let others know roughly what he was going on about.

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b0ba (Inactive) 6 March 2006 9:55 Send private message to this user   
Anyway. Those statements about child porn/bob making/etc. are just a screame of a wounded beast. Construction of the nuclear bomb and/or other explosives can be found on the web (using google for example) with detiled explanation and materials required on the sience related sites.
They (you know who i'm talking about) just can't do anything.

About music/movies shared:
I can download music I like from my favorite dj's site for free!!! And I do download them. But do I buy his CDs. Those who have riped cd->mp3 will understand me. Quality suczzz.
Same goes to movies.

P2P networks will never die!

PS: This is not about religin. It's just about the mONEY. That's it.

No animals were harmed during writing this message.
sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 10:15 Send private message to this user   
Bob making eh?
On a more serious note, you're right, it's just a scare story to make people look bad. Anybody with a functioning mind doesn't give a damn about it. Nice try losers.

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b0ba (Inactive) 6 March 2006 10:33 Send private message to this user   
sammorris:
I agry with you.

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sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 10:59 Send private message to this user   
You're agry with me because? Because I pointed out you don't spellcheck posts, neither do I. So what the fuss?

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ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 11:41 Send private message to this user   
sammorris
dead on *L* I wish I had a working mind *L*
as for this part

""(that bit was unintelligible) ""
what I mean is they basically refuse to grow up as a culture or as a people the resent riots over the cartoon are fact of this..you don't trash the city like drunk collage kids when you lose a game you do what everyone else dose boyycott,sad thing is the boyycott is working and they are still roiting alil....acting like kids who didnt get a cookie they are *sigh*.

The Google spellchecker doesnt work quite right but I am trying to use it.

Thanks for the summarization maybe if I can be less quick to post I can proof things alil more.

b0ba
we did veer off topic alil now and then but eh as long as it's not to bad I learn more things by going off topic *L*
LOL

sammorris
LOL

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sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 12:01 Send private message to this user   
LOL indeed, and from what I can see the Google spellchecker still needs some improvement.
Quote:
drunk collage kids when you lose a game you do what everyone else dose boyycott,sad thing is the boyycott is working and they are still roiting alil
:D

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hot_ice (Senior Member) 6 March 2006 12:20 Send private message to this user   
@boba

Listen bob making may be widely available information on the internet, however, I strongly advise anyone that is thinking of experimenting with alleged bob plans to consider the fact that the chemical equations behind them are FAULTY and can get you and anybody else around you killed.

Notice I said bob. I won't say the word correctly, self-censorship.
hot_ice (Senior Member) 6 March 2006 12:21 Send private message to this user   
@zippy

even google can't recognize the language you speak lloloololloll

I'm just messing with you.
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 12:36 Send private message to this user   
hot_ice
My friends are convinced I have created a new language 0-o Kidding I am not LOL.

I surprised them that I could write fan lyrics to some anime songs and its actually not brain hurting *L*,I finally finished one I been working on for 2 or so years had a couple HD crashes witch always seem to lose everything I am working on so many notes and stories lost that I might not be able to do again because my mind is one track and dose not have reverse....

I think its a good day when I can take direct English translation and hammer out lyrics to a whole 4 min song and only have 8 errors of grammar or spelling.
altho it shows I am cable of making sense I just need to slow down and triple check grammar and spelling.

I have a brain...I think......

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sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 12:50 Send private message to this user   
Actually that one wasn't bad. Only 9 errors I count.

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hot_ice (Senior Member) 6 March 2006 13:33 Send private message to this user   
Actually Zippy, you are referring to interpersonal coding. It doesn't matter if your syntax or orthograph is faulty, Chomskian linguistics suggests that we are all "language geniuses" in our way to formulate sentences at will without any prior knowledge.

Personally, I don't understand, I don't think I need to refer to cryptology, just simply try and decipher what in the seven wonders of the world you are talking about.

Peace out yo!
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 6 March 2006 14:34 Send private message to this user   
hot_ice
Mmm decipher what I am talking about in general or to the last post?

Fan lyrics are akin to Fan subs but they take it one more step,a direct translated song can have odd sentences like

"We as humans are yet to be able to share words."

and other things that are just odd...this one was hard for me to fit with the theme of the song and japanese vocals....
I hamered out

"Our hearts to young to share our pent up words and feelings of each other."

matching theme of song is around 80% matching vocals is around 80% ,mabye closer to 75% in any case its annoying me still even tho I am 95% complete with the lyrics but it might stay at that since I suck with words.I might create a thread in the chit chat area over this I need more input over the the lyrics from non biased sources *L*

Fan lyrics try and hammer out good lyrics in English while keeping to the spirit of the song,a few US companies used to do this (Animeigo , Viz) professinally but its fallen out of favor over the years , Direct to TV anime has not help this (Direct to TV Anime focus on TV edited dubing look at Yu gi ho or One piece,altho in One Piece's case 4Kids took a PG13 anime and remade it into a G cartoon show).
VIz now sho pro has fallen to the level of good 4kids dubing which is annoying as hell...since they released ranma 1/2 with full translation and dubbing of songs....the song I made fan lyrics to is its 9th ending and the US broadcast of naruto is minus its intros and outros in favor of cheap replacements ,but at least Naruto will get a full US release with uncut dubbed/subbed DVDs 4Kids wastes to much money with mindless edits and joining 3-10 eps together to release subs much less Uncut..

Bah I need to start learning how to make correct paragraphs....
Oh well playign with song lyrics can help teach me *L*
Its a good thing its not a MPAA song ,you know they hate fans?? its ture!! 0_o LOL


I have a brain...I think......

Windows Vister
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I fuzzy braind mew =0_o=
sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 7 March 2006 2:51 Send private message to this user   
It's generally not easy to translate stuff like that and keep the meaning anyway, languages just don't work like that.

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ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 7 March 2006 9:58 Send private message to this user   
sammorris
TO ture ,altho most of the time theres enough vocals there for you to hammer out a gramatticly decently sentance or 2 that more or less flows with it all.

BTW how is the dual core X2 treating you? I want to spend 250 and get a ADM 64 1MB cache CPU,it dosent seem like the X2s are worth gettign just yet but sicne you have one tell me what your exp have been,I bet that has a 1mb cache to, the X2 I can afford has a 512KB cache.

I have a brain...I think......

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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7 March 2006 10:08

hot_ice (Senior Member) 7 March 2006 11:11 Send private message to this user   
How about ebonics and slang, ever considered those Zippy? hehehehe

This is like the Zippy roast...
ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 7 March 2006 11:20 Send private message to this user   
Hot_ice
Funny only 2? I could have sworn I was deficient in 7 or 8 things...mmmmm

I have a brain...I think......

Windows Vister
I dub thee vister untill thee can prove thyself.

I aint the brightest bulb around but I can feel my way in the dark...

I fuzzy braind mew =0_o=
sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 8 March 2006 10:49 Send private message to this user   
I haven't got one yet! It's in my future buy list, but with financial status looking ever more bleak I may end up having to settle for the 3800 instead, possibly for the sakeof an AGEIA card, although I may not even end up with one of those.
Looking into an Aria build atm, seems reasonable, totally customisable, and good service and price. Hmmm, there's something fishy about that...

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What I want:

Athlon64 X2 4200+ Manchester, 2GB RAM, 512MB X1900XT
mmmmm...

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ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 8 March 2006 11:04 Send private message to this user   
sammorris
can you help me to understand soemthing,I am mostly sure than a 1MB cache 2Ghz CPU would be about the same or better than a dual core 2Ghz 512Kb for games and apps that do not use 2 cores.

XP can run both and over all it mgiht run better but over all you wont get the most of of the CPU untill more apps and games use 2X cores....besides I dont ahve 400+ for a CPU I am goign to get a 3700 it has a 1MB cache and should do well for acouple years...

I have a brain...I think......

Windows Vister
I dub thee vister untill thee can prove thyself.

I aint the brightest bulb around but I can feel my way in the dark...

I fuzzy braind mew =0_o=
sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 8 March 2006 11:08 Send private message to this user   
any dual core would be better than a single core at present. Even with the relatively inexpensive X2 3800+ you get two 3200+ cores, eventually ending up as a 6400+, not bad at all.

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256MB Sapphire X800PRO AGP, Hiper 480W Type R Red PSU
LG GSA-4163B DL DVD+/-RW RAM, Artec 48x16 DVD-ROM, SuperFLower SF-464T2-S Case
What I want:

Athlon64 X2 4200+ Manchester, 2GB RAM, 512MB X1900XT
mmmmm...

With Graphics cards one is enough, but you can never have enough processors... :D Oh the Greed.
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