Zippy how is the 360 crap when you have nothing to compare it to yet????

dhs58
I think MrMexicans comment is well balanced ^^
the 360 is crap currently becuse there are 6 games on it and 3 of them are on PC...not to mention the still spoty hardware troubles.....

a lot of the ppl in this thread are ps3 fanboys... i myself am a 360 fanboy but still think the ps3 and rev are still very good systems. a lot of you seem to base the results of this gen consoles on the # of games. if you continue this point of view to this gen the 360 would be your winner because it has a familiar type of media in the dvd and the hd dvd is said to have similar structure. since there will be more 360 games there is a greater chance that the 360 will have more amazing games than the ps3 (ex. this gen- xbox-halo ps2-god of war, grand turismo and many more). i guessthis is a fair way to judge the system but you cannot asume that one of them will fail bcuz two consoles are yet to come out.

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Zippy there is more than 6 games. Are you from America?

Sony will win for a big reason and that is the blue ray. It will be too expensive to get anywhere else so why not get a ps3 so you can have the blue ray player and play ps3 games. It certainly has my vote because you can bet your ass that that will be the only affordable blue ray player out.

sukhvail
so the number of quailty games dose not matter? no wonder the DS is better than the PSP *L*
(games matter,without games there would be no diffrance between the systems)

dhs58
I know I know,what I mean is it dosent have enough worth while games to make it worth it right now, plus I can get the same or better graphics on my comp *L* so its not realy next gen however in a year or 2 when the codeing is at its peak I bet they will make some games that will even give computers a hard time (think quake 4 in reverse) as I have always said for the 360 to be number one it has to have the j-devs behind them other wise they will be fighting with nintendo with the 2nd spot...I dout the REV will be number one the PS3 seems the best bet..but then again I dont think MS has released the 2nd wave of 360s they might be waiting for sony to stick its head out so they can be even with them.

bluejet
eh only 10 or 20GB diffrance HDDVD is the better for the short run Blueray might be better in the long run,B-R iseems a bit over kill to me,Totaly new format means everything in the indusrty has to change...altho it happened with DVD..mmmmmmm


BTW
Any Xbox gamers here?
I am gathering a list of Xbox games that I want to get,best controler new Xbox models that dont have any hardware troubles for them,I'd like help makeing my Xbox(not 360) list,PM me if you want to help ^^

@ZIppyDSM
the number of quality games does matter though if you had the choice between a psp and a ds can you honestly say you'd choose ds unless your a huge nintendo fanboy? you also have to take in consideration which one is better catered towards you.
the ps3 is also aiming to be a cheap blu ray player

sukhvail
Mmmmmmmm well frankly game wise neither the DS or PSP scream out at me,PSP is a all around media player least it can be and the DS has GBA games and mario paint....0-o LOL

B-R will be pointless unless hollywood jumps on it...B-R or HDDVD will either wind up being a data storage fade away or it could cling on like VCDs 0_o

The 360 dose have 1 advantage thats devs will elarn to code better for it and should be able to bing its full potional out in 2 years I cant wait for that but untill then I can hang back and let pll pay 500 to be beta testers *L* I hope sony gets stuff in gear its going to be intresting in this years 4th Q

I get your point Zippy, Im not going to argue anymore points, so best of luck to you on your console choice.

"5th Place DS

This system is good for some games but most of the games aren't really good.(Except for a few that I was really impress that I thought wasn't good like Meteos)
But it really didn't have a lot to offer comparing this to the PSP but still this is a good system when it wants to be. (Like the Metroid Hunters being said that it wasn't going to be releashed and later it was but had to delay it for something and untill I saw the commercials of Metroid(which gave me a sure feeling that this game was going to be releashed) I then started playing the demo of it and getting prepaired to beating this game before my friends do."

Sorry but DS is out selling PSP due to PSP dont have any original games

Ok here is the truth as I see it.

PS3 will come out on top #1 reason jap support as pigheaded as we Americans are we are not the ones driving the game industry without the support, talent and games from japan a console does not stand a chance ie xbox, xbox 360. As proof in point to the best of my knowledge xbox still has not sold all of the intial realese 360's in japan last i heard total sell was somewhere around 65,000. Pretty dismal launch if you ask me.

#2 reason HARDWARE HARDWARE HARDWARE
The xbox 360 is still running off standard dvd 9 format and if you want to get the HD-DVD format, which xbox does not support right now, you will have to purchase a external drive for it. Hmm, that sounds like another system, sega cd anyone? Fact is consumers dont like to purchase add-ons and add-ons lose support quickly just like the eye toy for ps2. On the other hand you have the ps3 which will have its new media built into will come out of the gate with the best storage and performance. Just a little late.

Reason #3 it all comes down to the games

I am not a xbox hater just to put that out there but there really isnt that great of a selection of original games. yeah yeah I know it has Halo! Ok after that name another one..... This is where the revoultion and sony are going to have the biggest competition. Lets face it we all have a place in our hearts for Mario and Zelda. XBOX just doesnt have the same loyalty as ps2 and nintendo and thats what it all comes down to.

Good luck xbox you will do in the U.S. but thats it.

dhs58
hehehehe I "win" most arguments like that..I tend to forget past conversations 0_o
LOL
Same luck to you ^^

odreian78
the PSP has acouple RPGs I been keeping an eye on but you are right..they had to dig up medievil 2 to put on the PSP for lack of support 0_o,its kinda like the troubles MS has with the 360 it can never be king without the games.

I wonder if I should start gathering Dskins to put on NEWER games.....the way things are goign one scratch or smudge and you have a dead game...all the more reason makeing a backup will be important or takeing insanely good care of tehm 0-o

Personally, I think the ps3 will be the best because:

Sony has always been better than microsoft think of the consoles!

Blue-Ray Is the New format with the most potential.

Dvd is getting old now, its like a hip old man it will die out soon!

Blu-Ray is new and full of exciting potential, like a hip young man lol!

Well think what you like but in the end when theyve sorted out all theese problems its impossible for the PS3 to fail!

lecsiy
you have a point but it all comes down to whitch hollywood will support,untill then its a fancy game system format like DC's GDrom or the GCs mini dvd like formats,that some sonyis releaseing tis frist B-R player soon its only 1000$ 0-o

Sony isn't dumb. Were they dumb when they put the dvd player in the ps2? Hell no. Will they be dumb when they put the blue ray player in the ps3? No because it's the next best thing and i'm pretty sure sony's sat down and thought about if it's a good idea or not and from the looks of it they think it is and so do I.

MMmm forgive me but niether format has is better security wise than the other right? I emna it might take longer to figure out how B-R works,becuse HD DVD is a high format DVD it should be easier to "crack".

even still.....B-R is looking nice as long as its not picky about my storageing my collections on it I dont care *L*

Sony better charge under 500$, or it falls within the no buy policy.

Hot ice
if thier building it around B-R and I think they are....500 would be the minuim...I think it could hit 650...but 500 is the holy grail in priceing...you dont want to go over it...thier going to lose with anythign they do so priceign the B-R players at 1000+ to keep the ps3 at 500 or under,I think doing it this way they could gain a footing into more non gamer markets,just becuse its the frist B-R palyer.

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Its official ladies and gentlemen!

The PS3 price will be 550$ here in Montreal Canada!!Got that information from a friend who works at EBGames!

Its not bad, but its still expensive, ill wait a year before buying.

Ooooo 550...might get oen for Xmas.... if I can find at least 2 games I will drool for..

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resident evil 5 and devil may cry 4!!!

Ooooo 550...might get oen for Xmas.... if I can find at least 2 games I will drool for..

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creaky got me, i'm such a tool

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Ok here is the truth as I see it.

PS3 will come out on top
#1 reason jap support
#2 reason HARDWARE HARDWARE HARDWARE
Reason #3 it all comes down to the games
Good luck xbox you will do in the U.S. but thats it.

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1. Mhmm the Japanese market plain doesn't like Xbox. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
2. Sony has great hardware, but Microsoft sure is giving them a run for their money. And better hardware doesn't mean a console will come out on top.
3. Exactly. Reason #3 should be reason number 1, because in every console war to date, the games make the console. Period.
and xbox will also do pretty well in europe, too.

double postage 0-o

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