soon time will come for all of us to go upstairs to the attic and find those old tape recorders filled with dust. hope they still work

Do they do anything like this in England? I mean, filing lawsuits and stuff...

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EFF says 'stop RIAA madness'

p2p news / p2pnet: The EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) has joined the steadily growing crowd that's had enough of the Big Four Organized Music cartels' vicious and bizarre sue 'em all marketing scheme.

In its latest phk-up, the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America), owned by Warner Music, Sony BMG, Vivendi Universal and EMI, subpoenaed a Georgia family which A) doesn't own a computer and B) isn't even online.

This shouldn't come as any kind of surprise, however. The RIAA has also tried to sue Gertrude Walton, an 83-year-old deceased grandmother, not to mention children as young as 12, and their parents.

Now, "Take a Stand Against the Madness; Stop the RIAA!," says the EFF.
"The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is on a rampage, launching legal attacks against average Americans from coast to coast. Rather than working to create a rational, legal means by which its customers can take advantage of file-sharing technology and pay a fair price for the music they love, it has chosen to sue people like Brianna LaHara, a 12 year-old girl living in New York City public housing.

read the rest here
http://p2pnet.net/story/8645

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soon time will come for all of us to go upstairs to the attic and find those old tape recorders filled with dust. hope they still work

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Been there, done that, Ricky. It's an excellent idea too, and everyone should do it. Do what? Burn a bunch of standard red-book music cds of stuff you're *never* going to see again in any store, before it's too late.

I dragged out an old turntable, and transferred a rather irreplaceable collection of vinyl LPs, 45-rpm singles, and even some old shellac 78-rpm phonograph records; an old Radio Shack 8-track recorder/player to transfer a large box of country & western tapes for my dad; and a whack of old cassette tapes.

Since ALL of these recordings had been long since been paid for (at retail), I felt no immediate compulsion to advise the RIAA of my dirty, filthy guilty acts of Piracy, send them a big cheque ($$) to ease my conscience, and beg them not to sue me, (or my dog, or my canany, or my goldfish which passed away last week, or .....) <gg>

A completely free program to do this (Exact Audio Copy) is available right here in the a/D download section! :-)

lol

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Damm.. RIAA lawsuit hits family with no computer or Internet access, says it all..

Not the first time the RIAA retards have slipped up..



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you know you are not allowed to post your site and mine for members..
are you special or did you ask drd if you are allowed to post your site.

EDIT: Understood now..

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He's referring to this,

Register, we need members
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If you didn't put them there then someone probably got your password and messed with your account - us mods can't do anything with users sigs. If you feel someone has gotten into your account then change your password immediately, fix your sig and take measures to prevent someone getting it again.

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Ah alright,its not my site, a member asked me if i would put it there for him and i thought it would be ok to add a little reference to the site after seeing members do it.

I have no problems with removing that one little link to there site so no harm done :)

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It's really interesting to read all these arguments, and to still know that those same logical arguments would never hold up in courts. It really bugs me that so many people can assess the situation; agree that so many things are wrong with what the RIAA is doing; and yet nothing can be done to stop them.

The RIAA will continue to exist for a very long time, not because there is a concern about money lost from piracy; but because it is profitable. They were founded to make an example; and to scare people into straightening out. But now; it's become clear that they aren't interested at all in stopping this massive occurence from happening. Instead; they have shifted more to a focus on profiting further from it; and the lawyers involved will only continue to profit. These are easy, open and shut cases. They invest probably an average of MAYBE $1000 investigational fees per case before issuing a subpeona. Maybe. That's a REALLY high estimate. And they win how many thousands from each case. These lawyers can easily close most of these cases in a courtroom in less than an hour of effort. It's really hard to beat that kind of cash for so little effort on the lawyer's part.

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more info

RIAA sues dead women, refuses to believe she's dead
Posted by Quakester2000 on 26 April 2006 - 22:21 - Source: The Inquirer

Savannah used our news submit to tell us that the RIAA has accused a dead grandmother of downloading music. The woman accused is Getrude Walton and she has supposedly downloaded 700 songs off P2P networks, and the RIAA wants the matter to be seen in court. Gertrude has supposedly been breaking the law persistently even, ignoring requests from the RIAA to pay compensation. The RIAA didn’t seem to realise that the women has been dead since December 2004.


go here to read it all
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13346

more info on the riaa

EFF creates petition against RIAA lawsuits for Congress
Posted by Dan Bell on 26 April 2006 - 14:27 - Source: Electronic Frontier Foundation

neo1918 used our news submit to tell us "Make a difference and sign the petition. Then get your firends to sign it. The EFF wants 100,000 signatures, but imagine how cool it would be if there are way more than that!"

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is on a rampage, launching legal attacks against average Americans from coast to coast.

Rather than working to create a rational, legal means by which its customers can take advantage of file-sharing technology and pay a fair price for the music they love, it has chosen to sue people like Brianna LaHara, a 12 year-old girl living in New York City public housing.

Brianna, and hundreds of other music fans like her, are being forced to pay thousands of dollars they do not have to settle RIAA-member lawsuits -- supporting a business model that is anything but rational. This crusade is generating thousands of subpoenas and hundreds of lawsuits, but not a single penny for the artists that the RIAA claims to protect.

Copyright law shouldn"t make criminals out of 60 million Americans,

go here to read it all
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13343

The US govt needs to step in and do something...wait ,my bad,the govt is just as bad as the RIAA!! how could I forget!

something that all people with a wireless connection should read up on this is a group of programs developed and put out freely to the web for "ANYONE" to down load is called "AIRCRACK" this program set is designed to alow a user to break passwords for a secure wireless connection so if you think well "wep" will keep people out then your very miss lead by someone, ask your service provider, if they will pay any fines if your wrongly accused of downloading music or movies illeaglly? and then invest in encryption software.... but that might raise the eye of our all seeing "big Brothers" good luck

"Music and other copyrighted materials are some of America's most important, cherished and visible exports,"

If music is some of our most important exports, it's now wonder that the US is becoming a joke in the world market. But such over-inflated ego is par for the course from the RIAA

Again; the RIAA isn't interested in stopping downloads or protecting music. They are interested in how easy it is to profit from this illegal action.

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I read in our city paper that there will be about 2600 letters sent out to people who have illegally downloaded content from the internet. Dating as far back as 1997. WTF! How can they prosecute you? Do they have to have physical evidence like finding the cd's you burned or can they sue you just by noting you were on this site and downloaded this on this date? Crazy!!

They have to suit them selves first, just to be sure that they will stay on business. On the other hand u.s. courts must obligate them first to invest in the sniffing - spoofing business, which be good for all the planet and give sentences 1 000 000 times the fee they asked because they keep busy away for more serious business the attorneys, judges, e.t.c. The morons instead of paying tons of bucks in the law firm they could get proces lower and voila' no problem at all. That's all folks!

"What is this thing Grandpa"
"That's a CD"
"What's a CD"
"OH it stored music that was played on a CD player"
"Where did you get them"
"Bought them at a store"
"Bought, you mean you had buy music at a store"
"Yes grandson. You see once upon a time record companies owned all the music and would sell a number of them on each CD"
"What if you only wanted one song"
"Had to buy the whole CD"
"What happen to them"
"Oh they didn't like the internet and tried to stop folks from downloading only the songs they liked. They refused to accept the new technology. Eventually artists found out they could do better by letting people have to music cheap or for nothing and make their income by holding concerts."
"Ahh I see. Kinda like the old Oil Companies we learnt in history that ignored alternative fuels."
"Exactly my boy, exactly"

I don't live in the US.. but it would be great if more and more people could sign the EFF petition - http://www.eff.org/share/petition/

-Mike

This is why the government should strongly condemn monopolies and put them out of business.

The RIAA, are clearly out of control, and suing children is unethical, not that these greedy chipmunks care about morality! Bastards, excuse my language, but they've gone too far!

BOYCOTT!!! Calling all people to hold an international boycott of their products, if they won't change, we won't buy their products!

I use p2p to find music I once had in the past that has not been available from "the industry" plus other music, and I can honestly say that BECAUSE I downloaded something I like, I've gone and purchased the legitimate item.

Did you hear that , RIAA , I was compelled to buy it for myself, which I wouldnt have otherwise done.

The whole business is such a closed shop, i.e if your not in the Union you dont get airplay...you must fit into a catagory, you must look like all the other bands in the same catagory as you...

I see a time when bands wont need the RIAA or the BPI, the internet will do that. Slowly but surely these DINOSAURS will finally DIE. These MIDDLE MEN will lose their stranglehold and music will once again be free from their control .

So Here's to YOUR EXTINCTION :) ;) :)

While I do see this as 'the old way'. And I do see that it needs to pass on, I also see that this is highly profitable for them.

They make money so much easier from this, than they do from you actually buying the music, whether it be online or off.

So; whether it's old fashioned or not; they're making a boatload of money on it. And as long as that trend continues; the lawsuits will continue. And why would they even think of stopping something so (evil and) profitable?

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I have not bought any CD's since the RIAA started their BULL@#% and I won't until it has stopped. I remember the"good old days" when I transfered songs from my albums to cassette tapes to play in my car stereo. Now I do the same thing using the computer to transfer to CD to use in the car. What's their point(RIAA). Try making your industry more friendly to your customers and you'll see a big difference in sales and your public image!

lol, damn record companies... they're too damn greedy