true, but they destroy lives. Even if the person wins the case, they're already in debt from lawyers and bills. They never recover.

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In my opinion this sucks

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selling Someones elses work for a profit is wrong

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I know this sounds weird but what do you think Retail Stores do? They sell DVDs, as well as other merchandise, for a profit. Its the same effect although this operation is illegal because the "artists" aka the MPAA and RIAA are not compensated.

Piracy: all it takes is a garage

On the other hand, the large year-to-year increases in seizures of burning equipment and discs could just as easily indicate that the piracy business is booming. Knowing how many units of anything were seized only tells us something interesting when we know what percentage this is of the whole. Without knowing that, it's difficult to say whether enforcement actions are now less, more, or just as effective as they were five years ago.

GO HERE TO READ THE ARTICLE
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/33/295688#2378397


and this article
BIG TIME WRITER,COPY UP TO 21 DISKS AT ONE TIME.

Should the RIAA fear that 21-DVD Duplicator?
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/33/295688#2379254

Like everyone else has said I dont like the MPAA and all those kinda organisations cause they go for the wrong people. But on this one they were right. Selling fake bootleg versions are not on. I am totally for making backups for personal use but not for profit in this massive way.

What i meant was, if you're sharing your favorite movie that you bought from a retailer, you shouldn't make a profit off of it because its not your work.

Have the people even been punished? Unless they got them all after another month or so they'll just set up a new one i expect they make a good living from it tbh, everyones pretty much right its daft to sell for profit tbh but they really are fighting a losing battle.

In America you make money ANY way you can. Legal and illegal does not equate to right and wrong - it simply boils down to who is better at dodging bullets, and perhaps who can take a few direct hits and keep on going.

Maybe the RIAA and MPAA should consider this:

If people are buying bootlegged movies for less money (and LOTS of them for that matter), maybe the studios should reconsider ticket and dvd prices. YES, $10 to see a movie is TOO HIGH!!! I know that theatres make money NOT off ticket prices, but off concessions, ($5 for popcorn anyone?) YES, $20 for the DVD is TOO HIGH!!! We all know it only costs a couple of bucks to make the damn thing, yet the studios are scamming US, the CONSUMER by heavily INFLATING the price!!

Another point: Has the "war on drugs" over?? OF COURSE NOT?? As soon as they do a big "bust", another one pops up. Same thing with the "war on terror" and now the "war on piracy".

Unfotunately, the bottom line is that there is no use in complaining and making reasonable suggestions because the fact remains that the MPAA and the RIAA are going to continue doing what they want anyway.

I'm going to be honest and say that on occasion I have copied a movie ot two to give to a friend or relative. Does that make me just as bad as a drug dealer or a terrorist?

I hope not

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from the MPAA
"Kabledog!you pirate! you're just as bad as the terrorists in the middle east! How dare you copy one of our movies and give it to a friend! Your friend needs to pay for an overly priced dvd with retarded copy protection just like you did, so we, the Money Pickpocketers Association of Assholes (MPAA), can mooch on consumers like you and make milions! so you see my point? You're just as bad as binladen, you pirate terrorist! Remember, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS! MWU HA HA HA HA"

So that's basically whats going on, kabledog. Your a good decent citizen thats considered a huge problem to the eyes of the already filthy rich Movie company.

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That's what I was afraid of, now that your on to me (MPAA) I have to go and find some countries with a lot of tunnels to hide out in for a while.
Hopefully with all the pirated stuff I am giving to alot of countries they will be kind enough to take me in.

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"that's right, little customer! but no matter where you hide, If you don't get killed by our bombs, we'll sue the Sh*t out of you, just like if you were convicted of murder. Stupid customer! Get in line, b*tch!"
Sincerely, The MPAA

Pop_Smith
and with the league sales the artists are sure to get a few pennies.
Soon the Mifiaa will start paying artists less becuse they ahve to fight the pirates *rolls eyes*

This is good I guess.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with copying or sharing with friends & family, but selling for profit is just plain stupid. These guys got EXACTLY what they were asking for on this one.

I agree people shouldn't counterfeit discs and try and attempt to profit from this passing them off as originals.

I'll even agree that making a huge copying business and selling fakes off cheap is wrong.

But I don't agree with umteen year prison sentences for that kind of 'crime'.

I also don't agree that sharing is anything remotely similar either.

As for backing-up the products we've bought and paid for?
Hell, we need to rip.....given the quality - !? - of the so-called anti-scratch coating on many discs these days you're well advised to back up everything you buy.

And to hell with them stopping us using the material we've bought and paid for in the manner we choose.

But the current pretense that sharing equates to 'supporting' terrorism or child pornography is either a laughable and deliberate lie or simply insane in my book.

But who's thinks anyone is really kidding anyone here. eh?

In terms of taking cash from artists the biggest parasites and thieves any artist has ever encountered (for decades now) are people like the RIAA & the MPAA.

A bunch of lying liars lying to us all.....as they extort a handsome living for themselves.....afterall almost to a man/woman these guys have F.A. talent themselves and their lifestyle has to be funded somehow.

thats just crazy, I believe that in this situation he deserves that. I don't disagree with alot of things but his actions I do disagree with.

What were his Parents thinking? "Abdouraitamance" I'm sure his teachers loved calling roll!

Shame, shame, shame.

to me the bottom line here is this:_ if i 'borrow' a dvd or cd from a friend does that make me a criminal? no!
if i 'lend' a dvd or cd to a 'friend' does that make me a criminal? no!
however if i 'borrow' a cd or dvd and then make x hundred/thousand copies and then sell them, am i a committing a crime? yes!
Everyone deserves a Fair Share of the money that is paid
i won't pay the extortionate prices for dvd's and cd's, nor pay inflated prices at the cinema, to increase the coffers of big business.
if i thought that the bulk of the money was going to the artists that would be different but lets face it we all know where the money goes.
borrow yes! steal, no!
btw my 1st post on the subject

This type of bozo deserves to get caught. There was absolutely no gray area in what he was doing. Stupid is as stupid does.

As for (THE HORRORS!) the part about actually selling copies of movies before they've even be released from DVDs, all the legal bodies fighting this type of thing need to get a clue. People who get this usually poor quality camera copies of these movies are typically videophiles. They are going to either buy or rent the real DVD when it comes out, so who cares? These studios just need to give up and realize that most of America would rather watch a DVD on their home entertainment center than go to a stupid theatre anyway. And if you actually like the threatres, then quit shelling out $40 for a ticket and popcorn, save up your money, and buy yourself a nice home theatre system so you will want to stay home, too.

Two curious things;

1. What are some many law & order resources being directed towards what is essentially a civil matter and away from defending America when it is supposed to have a huge need for Homeland Security?

2. Why are employers allowed to organize to form bodies that can use the peoples resources against the people but labor is not really allowed to organize so they can be trampledc on easier?

as long as you dont sell, its all good ;)

Blah blah blah who cares any more. Sales still go on everywhere. They are not making any dent at all and never will.

one of the things i read on here and everywhere really, are rationalisations as to why it is ok why we should pirate things. The main one seems to be it is ok to pirate for personal use or between friend or webfriends, but it is not ok for big businesses to "pirate. It is as though size does matter, where small size seems to give and ethical and moral right to pirate provided it is not for money.
Another thing i see is the David versus Goliath, little versus big.
And, of course, free versus costing money.

In fact, most of us steal because we can get away with it due, in part, that it is not worth being pursued by big business and its sniffer dogs. The other part relates to one blade of grass hiding in a field of grass - they can't see us because we are hiding.

And we go, "Shame, shame", when RIAA, ARIA or whatever takes dead people or old people to court, and rejoice that we can make fun of the enemy. Yet we forget, that the enemy doesn't live for art, music, or film, it lives for money down to the last red cent. And, while you may only one person, there are millions of us "one persons" and that is millions of dollars of money. They want that money; they will do anything to get that money; they will do anything to protect future money as in stopping us whereever they can and making it plain to future p2p'ers that it is not worth stealing. They even go as far as buying p2p clients, slating networks with bad files. You have to remember they are capable of anything, anything at all as each one of us deprives the vampire of business of its blood, its money.

They are coming for each one of us. They can afford to do that, we can't.

So sit, sit there and wait.

Wait for the knock on the door.

They WILL get to you eventually, even if you have died.

I totally agree with limelight, there are wars and battles everywhere and at EVERY level. Funny google seems to be breaking copyright laws left and right wanting to digitize every book ever written. As far as movie DVDs downloaded, havent seen one that I would want to watch again. But then again I grew up on Howdy Doody!

Quote (limelight):

"If people are buying bootlegged movies for less money (and LOTS of them for that matter), maybe the studios should reconsider ticket and dvd prices. YES, $10 to see a movie is TOO HIGH!!! I know that theatres make money NOT off ticket prices, but off concessions, ($5 for popcorn anyone?) YES, $20 for the DVD is TOO HIGH!!! We all know it only costs a couple of bucks to make the damn thing, yet the studios are scamming US, the CONSUMER by heavily INFLATING the price!!

Another point: Has the "war on drugs" over?? OF COURSE NOT?? As soon as they do a big "bust", another one pops up. Same thing with the "war on terror" and now the "war on piracy"."

Um, yeah...last I checked the site is still up, so didn't do a lot of good did it? I find it hilarious that this country uses more taxpayer money helping these corrupt suits than it does tracking down meth makers.