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LimeWire Counter Sues RIAA

28 September 2006 20:52 by James "Dela" Delahunty | 117 comments

LimeWire Counter Sues RIAA LimeWire has filed a counter claim today in response to a lawsuit brought against it by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) last month. The RIAA sued LimeWire for not complying with a cease and desist notification sent in September 2005 by the trade group. LimeWire's stance is that the RIAA is out to destroy P2P networks to gain complete control over digital music distribution online.

"[The RIAA’s] goal was simple: to destroy any online music distribution service they did not own or control, or force such services to do business with them on exclusive and/or other anticompetitive terms so as to limit and ultimately control the distribution and pricing of digital music, all to the detriment of consumers." the complaint reads.

Most of the complaint denied or claimed no knowledge to the majority of allegations made by the RIAA. LimeWire claimed that because of the RIAA's uncooperative position, it was very difficult to negotiate. It was expected that LimeWire would make changes like those made by iMesh and in the claim, LimeWire criticises iMesh and its working relationship with the RIAA.

"iMesh's and the RIAA's goal is to have these P2P companies concede, under the thread of expensive litigation, to sell their assets for essentially nothing, with the promise of a 'get out of jail free card' from the RIAA. In turn, the P2P company must simply turn-over its userbase (which is the single largest asset typically) to imesh so they can then force a conversion to the iMesh platform which, in turn, will lead to huge profits to iMesh and, of course, the Major Labels."

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    mattmin (Inactive) 4 November 2006 9:58 Send private message to this user   
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    S2K (Member) 4 November 2006 12:40 Send private message to this user   
    Mattmin Quote: "I also found mention of RIAA prosecuted cases even though specific cases were not named, there was one with a woman named Debbie... "

    OK we know you seem not to have ever dealt with any issue of law.

    Law 101: The RIAA cannot "prosecute."

    You are not only mixing up downloading with uploading, you now seem to be unaware of the basic difference between civil and criminal law.

    By the way, "Debbie" Forster was NEVER prosecuted. She was sued. She was not sued for downloading but for distributing (pretty much the opposite).

    Again: Sued not prosecuted. Uploading not downloading

    mattmin (Inactive) 4 November 2006 12:51 Send private message to this user   
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    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 4 November 2006 13:39 Send private message to this user   
    mattmin
    at least try and not avoid the question *L*
    at lasst try and answer one thing,Uploading or downloading... *L*
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 4 November 2006 13:42 Send private message to this user   
    Oh just lay off it guys, nobody cares.

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    mattmin (Inactive) 5 November 2006 18:04 Send private message to this user   
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    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 6 November 2006 0:45 Send private message to this user   
    sammorris
    ya best to give up after 2 dodged questions,other wise the convos will wind up soemthing like in my head...the vocies can never remember what they say...



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    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 November 2006 2:22 Send private message to this user   
    I meant nobody cares about your argument, keep it to PMs.

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    mattmin (Inactive) 6 November 2006 2:32 Send private message to this user   
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    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 6 November 2006 2:35 Send private message to this user   
    I've had several. I know what they like, and I know how much other people can get irritated when they fill threads unnecessarily. I'm sure you and s2k care a lot about this conversation, but it can be a bit tedious to receive emails saying the thread's been updated when all you see is this, that's all I'll say.

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    henthom (Inactive) 6 November 2006 18:41 Send private message to this user   
    mattmin why is it that limewure is not operating on the internet i cannot download a thing from limewire and frostwire,is this one of the RIAA trick maaybe you can shed a light on this topic for me i cannot understand the technical situation,

    Thomas
    mattmin (Inactive) 6 November 2006 20:52 Send private message to this user   
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    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 7 November 2006 2:41 Send private message to this user   
    I'd disrecoomend getting a technician. They probably don't support the use of limewire, and the connection is more likely to be software, have a look at some FAQS...
    mattmin (Inactive) 7 November 2006 4:33 Send private message to this user   
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    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 7 November 2006 9:14 Send private message to this user   
    Lol if only it were that simple. Ever used a paid service?
    henthom (Inactive) 7 November 2006 9:26 Send private message to this user   
    borhan9. mate i had also downloaded frostwire and that DONT WORK EITHER i cannot download nothing from both of these website i started having this problem since early september.are you in the position to tell me if these website are still active.it is kind of fustrating.and the torrent are too slow for downloads limewire is a bit fast to to download music and video from.

    Henry Thomas
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 7 November 2006 9:43 Send private message to this user   
    A paid service is like Eonkey with a 30% speed boost.

    you can find alot of stuff but there are still plenty of spy and ad ware.
    borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 7 November 2006 10:00 Send private message to this user   
    @henthom

    I also am having issues with frostwire as of late I have removed it and have just stuck with torrents. I know its slow but as far as i can see this is your best bet at the moment. You can try Shareazza at the moment also this also is a P2P that searches torrent sites also.
    mattmin (Inactive) 7 November 2006 13:00 Send private message to this user   
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    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 7 November 2006 13:06 Send private message to this user   
    mattmin
    old news,I jsut used edonkey as a exsample,besides emule is working well.
    mattmin (Inactive) 7 November 2006 13:10 Send private message to this user   
    Zippy,

    It might be but emule is next I am sure.

    Alot of Netherlands and german servers are getting shutdown, after Razorback was closed earlier this year.

    The owner of Edonkey is going to become legit as the owner can make a fortune with the millions of people in his userbase if they all convert to a paid service.

    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 7 November 2006 13:14 Send private message to this user   
    mattmin
    not realy not alot of people will pay for a BS service.
    flyingv (Member) 7 November 2006 13:47 Send private message to this user   
    sammorris

    What in the world have you gotten yourself into this time!!! I haven't read all of this forum, but enough to see you are wasting your valuable time and knowledge on a subject which we all have similar agreements on. LOL friend!!!
    mattmin (Inactive) 7 November 2006 15:19 Send private message to this user   
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    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 8 November 2006 1:33 Send private message to this user   
    Lol fine I'll waste my time elsewhere! Hehe
    henthom (Inactive) 9 November 2006 17:13 Send private message to this user   
    thanks borhan9 i think i will do the same. some time this week i will remove both of these useless websites
    they are just a pain in the teeth.

    Heny Thomas
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