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Updated: Latest PS3 update is bricking consoles

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 02 Jul 2008 16:40 User comments (84)

Updated: Latest PS3 update is bricking consoles After many complaints surfaced that the latest PlayStation 3 firmware update, version 2.40, was bricking user's consoles, Sony has confirmed that it is looking into the matter.
The latest update, which will bring gamers a few of their most requested features, in-game XMB (XrossMediaBar) and "trophies" for online gaming, was officially released this morning but many users have claimed that the update is freezing or even bricking their consoles, making reformatting the hard drive the only solution.

"We're aware that some PS3 users are reporting issues after downloading and installing the 2.40 firmware update onto their system,"
said a rep.

"We are looking into the matter further and will work with our customers to address any related issues they may be experiencing with their PS3 systems."

On the official Sony PlayStation boards, there is currently a 42 page thread based on the problem, and I would implore current PS3 users to check it before deciding to update to 2.40.

View that thread here: PS3 official boards.

Update: It appears that Sony has taken the firmware update down as many users are confirming they can no longer update through the console or download from the Sony site.

"We have temporarily taken firmware v2.40 offline,"
said Sony Computer Entertainment America corporate communications director Patrick Seybold. "We've received a limited number of calls from consumers experiencing an issue with installing the system software update on their PS3. While our consumer services department has seen a low volume of calls on this topic, we are committed to providing the PS3 community with XMB access features delivered in the v2.40 update. We are working diligently to isolate the problem for those few consumers and to identify a solution before we put the firmware back up."

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84 user comments

12.7.2008 16:46

I'm suddenly glad i haven't had a chance yet today to download and install the new update.

22.7.2008 16:47

Hmm, I downloaded the update this morning, but I haven't used any of the features yet. I just played a PS2 game. Hope mine doesn't get bricked...

32.7.2008 17:01

Originally posted by dallasj:
Hope mine doesn't get bricked...
I believe the only time the console will brick is while, or shortly after, the update is applied.

So if you already applied the update as far as I know you should be fine.

42.7.2008 17:05

i was actually looking forward to this update but forgot to update this morning. i was just getting ready to update when i decided to check afterdawn. dont know why i didnt go update then look on afterdawn for the news but im glad i did, thanks afterdawn.com you pottentially saved me from a broken ps3.

when will we know if the update is fixed so as we can download it?

52.7.2008 17:11

I updated about 3am this morning and then played Bad company with NO problems...Good luck to everyone else...

62.7.2008 17:18

damn sony...

72.7.2008 17:19

I have an 80GB PS3 Bought in Nov. 2007.

No problems installing for me.

82.7.2008 17:20

After reading many (just a moment ago it was up to 52 pages) on the PS site...it's not everyone or all consoles.

Back up before you update! :)

92.7.2008 17:38

80GB bought on March 20, 2008 and mines running fine too. I've heard some problems where the main XMB doesn't show up but mine hasn't had a single hitch yet. I wonder if it happens to the consoles that people have/had freezing issues with GTA4.



102.7.2008 17:43

I would've expected the 360 to have these problems, not the PS3. Heck, even mine has a coffee pot and a grill attachment. Owell, at least there isn't any hardware issues like the RROD with the 360...

112.7.2008 17:44

from the looks of things i think the main console with problems is the early 60gigs, but then this isnt the first problem the 60's have had, think i remember alot of problems 60gig owners had with previous updates.

sony pulled the update from their site, anyone know if they pulled it from being downloaded via the ps3, either way i think im gonna wait until there is some official word that its fixed.

122.7.2008 17:49
leo8013
Inactive

I am currently running @ 2.36 firmware. I just tried to download the update via the PS3 and it said that I was at the highest firmware and no update needed. I did this at 5:37pm Eastern Standard Time USA. I also tried to download the update to my pc off the playstation website. so I can load it via memory stick to my PS3 but it comes up with the error page url not found. here is the link to sony's site directly http://dus01.ps3.update.playstation.net/...f1/PS3UPDAT.PUP
was this update pulled by sony to stop all the mishaps with this update. I also called sony and they told me that the update is scheduled for today but no time for release. Of course I know that he was lying do to the pages and pages found on sonys blog so anyone heard anything about them possibly stopping it. beyond the obvious fact that if their updates break the units that they are liable for all repairs of the console.

132.7.2008 17:53

Originally posted by tin23uk:
from the looks of things i think the main console with problems is the early 60gigs, but then this isnt the first problem the 60's have had, think i remember alot of problems 60gig owners had with previous updates.

sony pulled the update from their site, anyone know if they pulled it from being downloaded via the ps3, either way i think im gonna wait until there is some official word that its fixed.




I own a Launch day 60GB & only had one problem with firmware updates & that was 1.60 which Sony keep quiet & didn't tell 60GB owners that update block the ports of some routers.They didn't get that issue fixed til FW 1.80.


142.7.2008 18:11

got my 60gig the third week they were out. Up dated mine this morning. Works fine. Just checked PSN.com and 2.40 is up. The 39 pages on 2.40 up date on their Blog site is only has one person mentioning about sound problems. 37 of the pages are prior to July 2nd.

152.7.2008 18:15
nobrainer
Inactive

eek not good, welcome to the world of updates that can cause more harm than good console fans, i thought the driver'esk updates/patches were the reason ppl loved consoles over pc's?

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162.7.2008 18:27

I was up at 1 A.M. EST USA this morning and hit the "check for update option" and downloaded the firmware 2.40 update. I have been running it with MGS4 and Warhawk problem free.. I have an original 60 gig PS3 and I have been through almost everything on my system with no issues. If this is a select group of PS3's it may have something to do with the way data was saved to the HDD. If the PS3's they tested this on didn't have the issue, then it may explain the lack of available foresight.

Its not like this is the FIRST time a software patch has created an issue with a system/software/firmware. It happens with PC's as well.

<sarcasm>.. but I guess it IS a Sony Post </sarcasm>

I do think that the people affected by this deserve some sort of restitution from sony. By that, I mean maybe a free download of the game of their choice.. as long as its not undertow (haha).

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172.7.2008 18:50

Wow..just wow. Here I was hoping for a PS3 modchip to give me a reason to buy the PS3, but now even if one comes out I doubt I will get a PS3 for a few years until all these ridiculous bugs get sorted out.

182.7.2008 18:51

Well Sony got smart(ok somewhat)and removed that patch from being downloaded on their site.

192.7.2008 19:15

I have a launch PS3 60 and have no problems none at all....Except I can't get a type 2 nat...unless I connect directly too the router...ans yes I have read 2.5 million post on how to fix this...no luck

202.7.2008 19:20

Originally posted by leo8013:
I am currently running @ 2.36 firmware. I just tried to download the update via the PS3 and it said that I was at the highest firmware and no update needed. I did this at 5:37pm Eastern Standard Time USA. I also tried to download the update to my pc off the playstation website. so I can load it via memory stick to my PS3 but it comes up with the error page url not found. here is the link to sony's site directly http://dus01.ps3.update.playstation.net/...f1/PS3UPDAT.PUP
was this update pulled by sony to stop all the mishaps with this update. I also called sony and they told me that the update is scheduled for today but no time for release. Of course I know that he was lying do to the pages and pages found on sonys blog so anyone heard anything about them possibly stopping it. beyond the obvious fact that if their updates break the units that they are liable for all repairs of the console.
Same here leo8013. I actually downloaded the update to 2.4 this morning, but I would've been late for work, so cancelled the install. When I got home this evening, I tried to get the update and it said that 2.36 was the highest. I guess they took down 2.4. I've tried several times (last time was 7:15pm eastern).

212.7.2008 19:24

I also have a 60GB UK PS3 - updated to 2.40 twelve hours ago - no problems here. From what I can read - seems all of those affected updated via the sony server either wireless or through ethernet cable - I downloaded mine onto the PC , transferred to a USB stick and updated that way.

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222.7.2008 19:55

Originally posted by domie:
I also have a 60GB UK PS3 - updated to 2.40 twelve hours ago - no problems here. From what I can read - seems all of those affected updated via the sony server either wireless or through ethernet cable - I downloaded mine onto the PC , transferred to a USB stick and updated that way.
That is if they got a bricked console. I used my PS3 to update and didn't get a problem so it pins it down to older consoles at the moment. It seems very strange but perhaps the download was partially corrupted for people. Do the PS3 updates contain an auto integrity check on the file before the update starts? Or does it just install from what it has? It seems more and more like the high demand on the download took a turn into damaged downloads. I say this since the results of which type of consoles become bricked is varied.


232.7.2008 20:08

It does do a little "checking for update data" thingy before it installs, but i'm not sure if it's good enough to spot a corruption somewhere.

242.7.2008 20:20
leo8013
Inactive

I tried again via the pc to memory card with still no luck. On the playstation site it now lets you download the file but when I put the card into the ps3 and do the update via other devices it still wont work. it says that there is no update applicable. i read on another site Kotaku. that the update is affecting all models of the ps3 new and old but it is at random if it messes them up. I will check again in the morning

252.7.2008 20:25

I have a 60gb from dec. 15 2006. And I updated a couple of hours ago and its working fine. I thought it broke, when it took a while to enter the XMB after the restart.

262.7.2008 21:05

this sounds like the iphone lol

272.7.2008 22:53
japhy
Inactive

Yeah mine bricked. Sucks but hopefully Sony will take care of it.

283.7.2008 0:12

Originally posted by leo8013:
I tried again via the pc to memory card with still no luck. On the playstation site it now lets you download the file but when I put the card into the ps3 and do the update via other devices it still wont work. it says that there is no update applicable. i read on another site Kotaku. that the update is affecting all models of the ps3 new and old but it is at random if it messes them up. I will check again in the morning
Ahh, the update on the site is 2.36. They still haven't brought back 2.40 even though it says on the update section. The date on the link says 2008_0618 standing for June 18th, the day which 2.36 was released. The 2.40 FW on the other hand gave 2008_0702 which obviously stands for July 2nd. That's why the update on your memory card isn't considered "new".


293.7.2008 1:58
blueroad
Inactive

Originally posted by japhy:
Yeah mine bricked. Sucks but hopefully Sony will take care of it.
lol you read in the article the update bricks then everyone keeps saying its fine..there are people confirming that their consoles is "old" and still wasnt affected whixh is fine and somewhat informative due to the fact we thought it were the old consoles but some just wanna let the afterdawn community know that THEIR precious console is fine and we should not worry for them..geez thanks i wouldve had nightmares if you didnt tell me ..throughout the whole discussion only one guy said his console was bricked and he didnt give us any info on his console..guess people just dont do much thinkin nowdays..

303.7.2008 2:11

I don't think "bricked" is the correct term if you can fix it by reformatting! Usually "Bricked" refers to a bad bios/Firmware Update where it fails & leaves the system with no or incomplete BIOS as where you can not get into it except some back door as of FTPing into it during 5-15 seconds of initial boot!

313.7.2008 2:27

Software + hardware is an interesting creature I mean look at some or the 360 games that have simi wide spread issues with this and that, the tech both hard and soft is outpacing checks and balances.


Anyone think it could be a hardware version issue or merely bugs software can so easily devolp?

323.7.2008 3:33
susieqbbb
Inactive

i got a call from one of my freinds. it seems the firmware does kill consoles

333.7.2008 5:44

Did the update without an issue (yet).60gb pal release day and to the 40gb.
The only issues that i faced was that at my 40gb i had a demo download paused, and after the update i resume it, installed ok, bur the demo couldent start, PS3 totally freezed, i had to switch it off from the back cause the touch button even after 1 min couldn't shut it down.
I've re-downloaded the demo it and works now.

343.7.2008 7:47

I have a 60GB PS3.
I downloaed 2.4 with no problems.
Then again...I don't play too many games....I usually use it to watch movies and listen to music via the HDD.

353.7.2008 8:53

No problems here either nor with 10 of my friends/family. In the Sony forums out of 50+ pages of replies something like 10 people have some issue plus the reverse of 50+ additional pages with people without an issue at all, also over at NeoGaf they are doing a member count issue thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324089&page=14

From what I read it was said to be only 1 member out of 14 pages of replies and like ~600 PS3's to have a problem...only to later find out his issue was prior to 2.4 as he never even dl'ed/installed it!

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363.7.2008 9:29

Originally posted by japhy:
Yeah mine bricked. Sucks but hopefully Sony will take care of it.

Tried formatting your hard drive through a computer and popping it back in?

373.7.2008 9:42
nobrainer
Inactive

seems ppl are too dumb to understand my comment and have gone on the defensive because its a ps3 news article i shall post it again.


Originally posted by me:
you really shouldn't have to but seems as the "release before testing" has now emigrated to the consoles from pc's you are all beta testers to companies selling unfinished products.

imho purchase a snes or mega drive as they didn't have this problem as they were plug and play, not this purchase, patch, install, format, reinstall, cross figures ect, if they are unable to release code for a single device it's a very poor show.

PC vendors are able to issue code from systems built for 1000's of different components with different system configurations and are usually able to make it work ffs.
ok, games, software, gui's are all released incomplete or "patches" would not be nescercary at all as it woul work 100%.

the public are always used now as beta testers as it saves costs if the "public" finds the errors for them from their incomplete roll-out.

what has probably happened in this instance is that there was a crucial fix and as it was happening the line dropped or the signal was interrupted or the data was corrupted en rout, and just as the warning ALWAYS states on firmware fixes "DO NOT TURN YOUR POWER OFF DURING INSTALLATION" as it can total your system.

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383.7.2008 10:30

No doubt that there is a problem. 1 person on blu-ray.com has a problem. Seams that more NON-PS3 owners are having a problem with it than PS3 owners. See post above ^^^^

Where did you get your information that they released it before testing it? The same place you get the rest of your info.

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393.7.2008 10:36

I've just had a look on the UK Sony site and they're issuing this statement:



PLAYSTATION®3 system software update 2.40 temporarily unavailable.

It has been been reported from a limited number of PLAYSTATION 3 users that the PS3 Home Menu (XMB™) does not display after updating to the PS3 system software update version 2.40.

As a result of this, system software update 2.40 has been temporarily withdrawn while Sony Computer Entertainment investigates the cause of the problem. Keep checking back to find out when the system software update is available once again.

We apologise for the inconvenience caused and appreciate your understanding.




At least they have acknowledged the problem and are working on it. For me personally this whole access XMB in game is no great shakes, so I'm happy to wait a little while until they get it right

403.7.2008 11:00

I remember one company that went 2 years saying that they did not have a problem with their product but had a +33% failure rate. Took them 2 years to confess to the problem. Sony starts taking care of their problem with in a matter of hours. Bad Sony, you should just ignore the problem and hope it goes away like the other company.

413.7.2008 11:05

Originally posted by glassd:
I remember one company that went 2 years saying that they did not have a problem with their product but had a +33% failure rate. Took them 2 years to confess to the problem. Sony starts taking care of their problem with in a matter of hours. Bad Sony, you should just ignore the problem and hope it goes away like the other company.

I cannot recall what company that is.... Somebody help me out, lol.

423.7.2008 11:12

Originally posted by nobrainer:
@ oner

did you check out the official playstation forums?

Umm? Are you serious?

Originally posted by Oner:
No problems here either nor with 10 of my friends/family. In the Sony forums out of 50+ pages of replies something like 10 people have some issue plus the reverse of 50+ additional pages with people without an issue at all, also over at NeoGaf they are doing a member count issue thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324089&page=14

From what I read it was said to be only 1 member out of 14 pages of replies and like ~600 PS3's to have a problem...only to later find out his issue was prior to 2.4 as he never even dl'ed/installed it!

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433.7.2008 11:42

I'm glad they pulled it. Ive already had two bricked PS3's from previous firmware updates, I dont need a third.

443.7.2008 11:46

Isn't pulling the patch be a RESPONSIBLE move? I would expect a bigger reaction if they left a patch up that had an issue (which isn't the case exactly).

The "failure rate" of this patch is limited at best. Like Oner said, if you read the Playstation forums, or ANY other forum pertaining to this update you find a very low # of people with an issue. Those WITH an issue still don't have a "Bricked" console. They have a corrupted hard-drive which CAN be fixed. The rate of "failure" is estimated to be low by the tech-support hotline.

Quote:
Now, in addition, Jeff Rubenstein added some good news further on down in the comments section: "Weve received no reports of hardware issues following a successful install." This means that if you have downloaded firmware 2.40 and you're experiencing no issues, everything is fine. You don't need to worry about your PS3 blowing up at some point down the road because you downloaded a faulty firmware update, and that's a relief for many of us. As for those of you who had some major problems, Sony is working to figure this out, and have already responded to some of you. In fact, according to some results from a few of our readers, Sony is offering to fix "bricked" PS3s for free, so feel free to call 'em up and explain the situation.


I would say the failure rate is well below 33%. If it were more, then there would be a significant # of help calls to Sony by now. At least we don't have to worry about sending in a console for a BS refurb return.
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453.7.2008 11:49

I just got my 40 GB PS3 the other day and updated yesterday morning. It froze at 99% and pissed me off. I power cycled it and it recovered, booting to a reinstall update screen and finished perfectly.

I've had my PS3 less than a week and am feeling a little disappointed with the way it works. Hopefully it's just temporary. It rocks as a BD player but the gaming I feel is only so-so.


No Reason to Live But We Like it That Way

463.7.2008 12:09

Originally posted by bass_hit:
I just got my 40 GB PS3 the other day and updated yesterday morning. It froze at 99% and pissed me off. I power cycled it and it recovered, booting to a reinstall update screen and finished perfectly.

I've had my PS3 less than a week and am feeling a little disappointed with the way it works. Hopefully it's just temporary. It rocks as a BD player but the gaming I feel is only so-so.
Bad timing m8, have not been that many problems with the ps3 firmware, this is pretty much a first for me and ive had mine for a long time.

I'm sure it will get better.In terms of games,Try drakes fortune; its a really good story game.

473.7.2008 12:19

Originally posted by nobrainer:

imho purchase a snes or mega drive as they didn't have this problem as they were plug and play, not this purchase, patch, install, format, reinstall, cross figures ect, if they are unable to release code for a single device it's a very poor show.
....and we should all get back to caves, and hit the women with a glob to their head.
Thats an evolution for sure.

Originally posted by glassd:
Seams that more NON-PS3 owners are having a problem with it than PS3 owners.
^^100% agree.

From people that i know , no one is having issues yet and most of them have the 60gb, and here in AD i havent seen anyone saying that he's PS3 bricked.
Of course there is an issue, sony confirmed too, but it is very very limited.

483.7.2008 12:32
nobrainer
Inactive

seems ppl are either too dumb or too young to understand my comment and have gone on the defensive because its a ps3 news article i shall post it again.

Originally posted by me:
you really shouldn't have to but seems as the "release before testing" has now emigrated to the consoles from pc's you are all beta testers to companies selling unfinished products. Why do you think that adults don't pre-order and always w8 for the first patch for PC software!


imho purchase a snes or mega drive as they didn't have this problem as they were plug and play, not this purchase, patch, install, format, reinstall, cross figures ect, if they are unable to release code for a single device it's a very poor show.

PC vendors are able to issue code from systems built for 1000's of different components with different system configurations and are usually able to make it work ffs.
ok, games, software, gui's are all released incomplete or "patches" would not be nescercary at all as it woul work 100%.

the public are always used now as beta testers as it saves costs if the "public" finds the errors for them from their incomplete roll-out.

what has probably happened in this instance is that there was a crucial fix and as it was happening the line dropped or the signal was interrupted or the data was corrupted en rout, and just as the warning ALWAYS states on firmware fixes "DO NOT TURN YOUR POWER OFF DURING INSTALLATION" as it can total your system and because the PS3 is basically the same across the board if it was the patch it would have effected the whole range, unless the new PS3's have cheaper components than the launch 60gig model.

If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

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493.7.2008 12:56

Originally posted by nobrainer:
If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

I actually agree with you here. Its pretty bad that anybody has problems. I get easily ticked off about this stuff though as I have had problems with previous frimware. I will say though that I am glad to see Sony finally addressing the problem and not hiding from it like they've done in the past.

For the record, even though they have never fessed up and took the blame for the BD-drive issues from 2.20 (im guessing the number) they were NEVER unwilling to help me. Always good customer service, just to hard headed to own up to stuff.
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503.7.2008 13:20

Quote:
Originally posted by nobrainer:
If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

I actually agree with you here. Its pretty bad that anybody has problems. I get easily ticked off about this stuff though as I have had problems with previous frimware. I will say though that I am glad to see Sony finally addressing the problem and not hiding from it like they've done in the past.

For the record, even though they have never fessed up and took the blame for the BD-drive issues from 2.20 (im guessing the number) they were NEVER unwilling to help me. Always good customer service, just to hard headed to own up to stuff.

What BD issues were you talking about?

513.7.2008 13:25

The one where the BD-drive would stop reading media permanently. Making everything not directly installed onto your hard drive useless.

523.7.2008 13:29

Quote:
seems ppl are either too dumb or too young to understand my comment and have gone on the defensive because its a ps3 news article i shall post it again.

Originally posted by nobrainer:
you really shouldn't have to but seems as the "release before testing"



mE b so sorie mE so be dumb. In Engwish mE think "release before testing" meam did not test befo releasing. mE sorie
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533.7.2008 13:41

Quote:

what has probably happened in this instance is that there was a crucial fix and as it was happening the line dropped or the signal was interrupted or the data was corrupted en rout, and just as the warning ALWAYS states on firmware fixes "DO NOT TURN YOUR POWER OFF DURING INSTALLATION" as it can total your system and because the PS3 is basically the same across the board if it was the patch it would have effected the whole range, unless the new PS3's have cheaper components than the launch 60gig model.

If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.
Operative word: PROBABLY

Translation: COMPLETE SPECULATION

.. Let us know when you have some confirmed info.

543.7.2008 14:19

Quote:
If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

Without doubt the best comment yet.....

In the world of the PC there are thousands of different combinations of hardware components. PC games writers have a difficult enough job to cater for them all....

As for the PS3 AND the Xbox360 there is, in essence, only one common combination of components for each, and yet there seems to be a complete lack of programming capability. The games DO NOT work as intended out-of-the-box AND the software updates screw the machines on a regular basis.

At the most extreme NoBrainer is correct - we should return to using our older and infinitely more stable consoles until Sony AND Microsoft get their acts together !!

553.7.2008 14:24

Originally posted by glassd:
No doubt that there is a problem. 1 person on blu-ray.com has a problem. Seams that more NON-PS3 owners are having a problem with it than PS3 owners. See post above ^^^^
I'm starting to wonder that myself also because I've heard just about everyone say they isn't having any issues but most of the people on there complaining are newbie i smell 360 fanboys behind this.
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563.7.2008 15:17

I got the 60gb PS3 and i never had one issue with it. I updated yesterday after i got off work through my PS3 at like 6pm. I did not have one problem since. All i can say is Sony is at least on top of the corrupt file people downloaded to their system.

573.7.2008 16:11

Quote:
Quote:
If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

Without doubt the best comment yet.....

In the world of the PC there are thousands of different combinations of hardware components. PC games writers have a difficult enough job to cater for them all....

As for the PS3 AND the Xbox360 there is, in essence, only one common combination of components for each, and yet there seems to be a complete lack of programming capability. The games DO NOT work as intended out-of-the-box AND the software updates screw the machines on a regular basis.

At the most extreme NoBrainer is correct - we should return to using our older and infinitely more stable consoles until Sony AND Microsoft get their acts together !!
lol..I was just playing my NES the other day and thinking about how much I missed cartridge based gaming :P Gaming was so much simpler back then. And cheaper. Console prices have jumped up x6, games x2 and there are too many accessories. I remember how upset I was when consoles were all of a sudden only bundled with a single controller. Who didn't see through that money making gimmick. And how expensive memory cards were/are for last gen systems. A 3"x1" 8MB memory card for $25? Compare that with a 500GB HDD for $75. But I digress...

Well, Sony pulled the update for a reason. I hope it's available sooner than later. I really wanted to try it.
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583.7.2008 16:53

Quote:
Quote:
If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

Without doubt the best comment yet.....

In the world of the PC there are thousands of different combinations of hardware components. PC games writers have a difficult enough job to cater for them all....

As for the PS3 AND the Xbox360 there is, in essence, only one common combination of components for each, and yet there seems to be a complete lack of programming capability. The games DO NOT work as intended out-of-the-box AND the software updates screw the machines on a regular basis.

At the most extreme NoBrainer is correct - we should return to using our older and infinitely more stable consoles until Sony AND Microsoft get their acts together !!
So go enjoy your old dinosaur consoles. Leave the rest of us alone.
It's 2008 and this is the way of the world. The few of you that boycot the 360 and PS3 will have no effect what so ever.

593.7.2008 17:33

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If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

Without doubt the best comment yet.....

In the world of the PC there are thousands of different combinations of hardware components. PC games writers have a difficult enough job to cater for them all....

As for the PS3 AND the Xbox360 there is, in essence, only one common combination of components for each, and yet there seems to be a complete lack of programming capability. The games DO NOT work as intended out-of-the-box AND the software updates screw the machines on a regular basis.

At the most extreme NoBrainer is correct - we should return to using our older and infinitely more stable consoles until Sony AND Microsoft get their acts together !!
So go enjoy your old dinosaur consoles. Leave the rest of us alone.
It's 2008 and this is the way of the world. The few of you that boycot the 360 and PS3 will have no effect what so ever.
Nah, nobrainer only boycotts the PS3, not 360. Wait until the PS3 is cracked and you can pirate games, he won't boycott then. lol.

603.7.2008 20:54

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If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.

Without doubt the best comment yet.....

In the world of the PC there are thousands of different combinations of hardware components. PC games writers have a difficult enough job to cater for them all....

As for the PS3 AND the Xbox360 there is, in essence, only one common combination of components for each, and yet there seems to be a complete lack of programming capability. The games DO NOT work as intended out-of-the-box AND the software updates screw the machines on a regular basis.

At the most extreme NoBrainer is correct - we should return to using our older and infinitely more stable consoles until Sony AND Microsoft get their acts together !!
So go enjoy your old dinosaur consoles. Leave the rest of us alone.
It's 2008 and this is the way of the world. The few of you that boycot the 360 and PS3 will have no effect what so ever.
Nah, nobrainer only boycotts the PS3, not 360. Wait until the PS3 is cracked and you can pirate games, he won't boycott then. lol.

If that ever happens he will somehow find a way to post negative shit about it (Have you noticed that he never posts in postive newsposts?)

613.7.2008 23:41

The guy makes some good points though, I used to be all gung-ho about sony until I started looking into the BD+ and some of the other things he discusses. Ultimately, sony wants your money and they're gonna get as much as they can from you however they can. They make damn good products but their business practices are far from desirable.

624.7.2008 0:02

Anybody getting the "You have been disconnected from the PlayStation Network" after the update?

634.7.2008 4:37
nobrainer
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Originally posted by Hunt720:
Originally posted by me:

what has probably happened in this instance is that there was a crucial fix and as it was happening the line dropped or the signal was interrupted or the data was corrupted en rout, and just as the warning ALWAYS states on firmware fixes "DO NOT TURN YOUR POWER OFF DURING INSTALLATION" as it can total your system and because the PS3 is basically the same across the board if it was the patch it would have effected the whole range, unless the new PS3's have cheaper components than the launch 60gig model.

If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.
Operative word: PROBABLY

Translation: COMPLETE SPECULATION

.. Let us know when you have some confirmed info.
OMG, did you even read my post, what exactly was i saying about your precious beloved Sony Hunt720, when you get home from school today, sit down read it again and try to understand it eh!

was i slating the console or was i just trying to think of circumstances that would actually do this type of damage seems that every ps3 is not bricking up?

do you have nothing better to do than quote my posts and put me down. some of you guys are unbelievable.

@ NexGen76

yes there are many newbs taking swipes at me, so only ps3, as you put it "fanboys" are allowed to post here then? you know that the console war is fake don't you, it's been made up by the manufacturers to develop hatred towards the other brands and keep you loyally purchasing their goods, it's fired up by teams of m$ and sony bloggers who are paid to flood forums with posts.

Its a disgusting marketing tactic as it is manipulating the minds of our children, you know things like the mgs4 reference to changing the disc. if you take a gander over on the ps3 forums there are tons of anti 360 remarks which completely violate the rules but as it is their bloggers the posts are allowed to remain, i am certain that its exactly the same with the vole also.

I saw a great advert on the TV the other day (uk). It was for Anchor Butter, the closing line read "Anchor Butter made from free-range organic cows"

Free-Range & Organic being the current buzz words as is HD or Hi-Def.

wake up!

@ grkblood

i don't pirate games dude, i used to a long time ago but i am just very conscientious now who i actually give my money to, the games industry has been hijacked by the same morons running the MPAA and RIAA and all its about is visuals and incoming revenue which is why nintendo has wiped the floor with both "more of the same" consoles. Fair use has been stolen from us and all we are left with is a series of hoops to jump through and studios snooping into out private lives where they have no right to. this is not on and DRM digital locks is the evil malware they use to snoop and globally price fix.

@ pensfan12

I'm cynical and btw i do post a few. If you even look through my posts you will even see that i have even started positive posts in the ps3 section but the sony bloggers hate the truth about their DRM and my signature naming the MPAA/RIAA so they try to make out i am a "fanboy" to belittle my posts.


FANBOY
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1. A person who is completely loyal to a game or company reguardless of if they suck or not.
2. A pathetic insult often used by fanboys themselves to try and put down people who don't like whatever it is they like.
3. See fool or SEGA.
"If you don't worship SEGA and send them all your money and pay $500 for the copy of Panzer Dragon I'm selling on ebay then your obviously a Sony fanboy even though I've never heard you mention a single thing about Sony the entire five minutes I've known you." Said the SEGA Fanboy.

"Yeah but the SNES didn't have Blast Processing" Said the Sega fanboy.

"FF7 sucks" Said the SEGA Saturn fanboy.


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644.7.2008 6:29

2.40 is now off of the site they put 2.36 back up shame I was realy looking forward to the new up date hope they fix it soon

654.7.2008 10:00

im not having any problems with 2.40. im glad i got it before they took it down so now i can message ppl while playing CoD4 =]

664.7.2008 11:02

Just give it a few more days - to be safe - until they fix it. Then download the patched patch.

Its always worth waiting a bit to see if these new firmware updates are 100% ok.

674.7.2008 14:37

Originally posted by champman:
Its always worth waiting a bit to see if these new firmware updates are 100% ok.

I always did that with my PSP but the PS3 forces you to update.

684.7.2008 17:35

the update is supposed to be back up now (I can't check for sure since I downloaded 2.40 before it was pulled). supposedly there was nothing wrong with the patch, just something wrong with the downloader that would mess up mid update and screw with the system.

704.7.2008 18:26

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what has probably happened in this instance is that there was a crucial fix and as it was happening the line dropped or the signal was interrupted or the data was corrupted en rout, and just as the warning ALWAYS states on firmware fixes "DO NOT TURN YOUR POWER OFF DURING INSTALLATION" as it can total your system and because the PS3 is basically the same across the board if it was the patch it would have effected the whole range, unless the new PS3's have cheaper components than the launch 60gig model.

If you cant write code for 1 piece of hardware that is reliable and complete it is a very, very bad show.
Operative word: PROBABLY

Translation: COMPLETE SPECULATION
.. Let us know when you have some confirmed info.


Hunt, it is true that what nobrainer said is speculation, but in medical school, it is often said, "If you hear hoof steps, think horses not zebras"


Here, nobrainer states a likely cause, not an out of left field guess, but rather an educated guess. You my not like /agree with his opinions, but they do bear merit.

For nobrainer to have confirmed info would require him to be in bed with Sony. None of us are there, so this is asking the improbable.


Hunt 720, in your first post you said

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I would say the failure rate is well below 33%


At best the grade you gave them was a "D" BTW this is not a passing grade


As nobrainer said, not a very good show

714.7.2008 20:04

As of 8pm eastern the update is still @ 2.36 not 2.40. Guess I'll have to wait awhile before I can patch. Could be a lot worse...Like my probs with Winblows XP SP3 update which nearly bricked my PC! (and SP no longer means Security Patch. to me it means Sucks P_ssy! [would you like to buy a vowel ;) ] )

724.7.2008 20:44

Originally posted by XENON:
As of 8pm eastern the update is still @ 2.36 not 2.40. Guess I'll have to wait awhile before I can patch. Could be a lot worse...Like my probs with Winblows XP SP3 update which nearly bricked my PC! (and SP no longer means Security Patch. to me it means Sucks P_ssy! [would you like to buy a vowel ;) ] )

Pat, I'd like to buy the letter "U" for 2 dollas

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


734.7.2008 22:04

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Originally posted by XENON:
As of 8pm eastern the update is still @ 2.36 not 2.40. Guess I'll have to wait awhile before I can patch. Could be a lot worse...Like my probs with Winblows XP SP3 update which nearly bricked my PC! (and SP no longer means Security Patch. to me it means Sucks P_ssy! [would you like to buy a vowel ;) ] )

Pat, I'd like to buy the letter "U" for 2 dollas

And we have a winner!
You've just won a PlayStation 3 with the latest 2.40 Update installed!

744.7.2008 23:44

I agree with everything nobrainer has said, the truth hurts, and the ones that cant accept the truth it hurts the most, thus the negative comments, its just that simple.

755.7.2008 0:45

Originally posted by core2kid:
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Originally posted by XENON:
As of 8pm eastern the update is still @ 2.36 not 2.40. Guess I'll have to wait awhile before I can patch. Could be a lot worse...Like my probs with Winblows XP SP3 update which nearly bricked my PC! (and SP no longer means Security Patch. to me it means Sucks P_ssy! [would you like to buy a vowel ;) ] )

Pat, I'd like to buy the letter "U" for 2 dollas

And we have a winner!
You've just won a PlayStation 3 with the latest 2.40 Update installed!

Golly,gee, I'm all choked up *sniff,sniff*, I don't know what to say. The only word I can come up with is, "BRICK"???

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


765.7.2008 2:58

man I need that update its been to long and I'm not good at waiting

775.7.2008 2:58

man I need that update its been to long and I'm not good at waiting

785.7.2008 18:02

Originally posted by FredBun:
...the truth hurts, and the ones that cant accept the truth it hurts the most, thus the negative comments, its just that simple.
And the same goes to those in reverse (more so though) when their "truth" is usually proven to be incorrect, disproven or just out right false...
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7913.7.2008 14:57

Originally posted by tin23uk:
i was actually looking forward to this update but forgot to update this morning. i was just getting ready to update when i decided to check afterdawn. dont know why i didnt go update then look on afterdawn for the news but im glad i did, thanks afterdawn.com you pottentially saved me from a broken ps3.

when will we know if the update is fixed so as we can download it?
So if my ps3 is bricked do i need to get a new one???

8013.7.2008 15:07

Originally posted by PS3allday:
So if my ps3 is bricked do i need to get a new one???
No, its more of a bug than an actual brick. Although you will loose your game saves you can just reformat the HDD to get your console working again.

See here:
http://hack5.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-fix-bricked-ps3.html

Peace

8113.7.2008 15:13

Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
Originally posted by PS3allday:
So if my ps3 is bricked do i need to get a new one???
No, its more of a bug than an actual brick. Although you will loose your game saves you can just reformat the HDD to get your console working again.

See here:
http://hack5.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-fix-bricked-ps3.html

Peace

So i went to that HDD and i still dont get how to fix it.

8213.7.2008 15:14

EDITED by Pop_Smith:

I will send you PM

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8313.7.2008 15:20

Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
EDITED by Pop_Smith:

I will send you PM

oka thankyou

8429.10.2009 11:19

do you know guys .. i try to update ps3 with the net not let me and try to use memory card and usb card and not work too..and try to make the update on the cd and try to make it work but not let me ..is there special cd for it or what co'z i bought new games not work until i update my system..what i do now.
thank you for any help

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