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Sony refutes claims of rumble in their controller

Written by Dave Horvath @ 03 Aug 2007 1:24 User comments (32)

Sony refutes claims of rumble in their controller

Rumors and buzz mills alike all swarmed at the possibility that Sony would release an updated SIXAXIS controller featuring the once left out rumble technology sometime soon. These reports started flowing in from innocuous mentions of it during the moments right before the E3 show earlier this year and fueled many comments from fans and skeptics alike. Today however, Sony has stated that they have no intention on including rumble into their SIXAXIS controller for any reason.
The early reports were spurred by a report issued from GamePro in which one executive made mention of a change in the SIXAXIS. This of course made people feel that Sony just might have figured out how to include it in their controller along with its motion sensitivity. Dave Karraker, Sony's director of corporate communications stated, "We have not added rumble [to PS3], and have no announcements regarding this feature".

Mr. Karraker came back with saying that they have merely made minor adjustments to the motion sensitivity of the controller that is part of a natural evolution of controller technology. "From time to time, we make minor enhancements to the controllers for our platforms. We recently sent out to the development community some new prototypes that have a slightly enhanced sensitivity for the analog sticks and the motion sensing within the Sixaxis controller. This is not a new controller, but is part of the normal development and evolution of controllers."



Sony has received much criticism for omitting the rumble feature from its current generation console controller. Fans of the feature can remember its benefits as far back as the Nintendo 64. Despite critics however, Sony remains glued to its original statement that rumble is a last generation feature and not a next generation feature.

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32 user comments

13.8.2007 13:31

Bring the rumble back please.

23.8.2007 13:37

"Sony has stated that they have no intention on including rumble into their SIXAXIS controller for any reason. "
Soo they are going call the new controller something else???? maybe? ....please? lol

33.8.2007 13:46

What,they should just stop with all the BS and release a control with rumble

43.8.2007 13:48

wtf is the deal with rumble? i dont miss it at all, and i own the system. its unnoticable. i didnt realized the lack of rumble untill a week after i owned it. even then i shrugged it off because it was nothing more than an archaic detacher from the world i'm trying to immerse in. a buzz of the hand is not like getting shot, and it push me away from being "in" the game. maybe if the controller would push itself directions and vibrate in specific areas of the controller, or even shock you slightly in certain areas, would it keep up with todays games efficiently.

53.8.2007 14:45

rumble is not needed in a pad design when you have something more subtle like the WII mote goign rumble would really effect gameplay.

63.8.2007 15:16
vinny13
Inactive

Ohh the Wii doesn't have rumble either!

Like OMG WTF ORLY?!

Who cares? You guys are too picky. Six systems in total have had rumble with in the past 10-12 years. and there were like 20 systems before those. No one complained about those controllers... except maybe the Atari joysticks and their stiffness.

73.8.2007 15:20

Originally posted by vinny13:
Ohh the Wii doesn't have rumble either!

Like OMG WTF ORLY?!

Who cares? You guys are too picky. Six systems in total have had rumble with in the past 10-12 years. and there were like 20 systems before those. No one complained about those controllers... except maybe the Atari joysticks and their stiffness.
Rumble is a cute feature but over all not needed.

83.8.2007 17:25
japhy
Inactive

YAwn rumble who needs it

93.8.2007 17:43

Originally posted by anubis66:
or even shock you slightly in certain areas, would it keep up with todays games efficiently.
That would be an awesome feature in a controller, console/PC/Mac, but I would imagine that you'd have to sign your life away so that the manufacturers would avoid litigation the way things are these days anubis66 :(

103.8.2007 18:30
26r0cK
Inactive

Wow i never thought the rumble function was that exciting, it just makes the controller heavier :P. I always disable the rumble function whenever i play but thats just me. I feel more in control. So this doesnt bother me but im sure others would love this function. Didnt kno it'd be that big of a topic.

113.8.2007 18:41

Quote:
Originally posted by anubis66:
or even shock you slightly in certain areas, would it keep up with todays games efficiently.
That would be an awesome feature in a controller, console/PC/Mac, but I would imagine that you'd have to sign your life away so that the manufacturers would avoid litigation the way things are these days anubis66 :(
well maybe just like a little electrical pulse like in those automatic flexing maching things. it doesnt need to be major, just noticed.

123.8.2007 22:09

Originally posted by vinny13:
Ohh the Wii doesn't have rumble either!

Like OMG WTF ORLY?!

Who cares? You guys are too picky. Six systems in total have had rumble with in the past 10-12 years. and there were like 20 systems before those. No one complained about those controllers... except maybe the Atari joysticks and their stiffness.
The Wii DOES have a rumble feature. This was one of the criticisms of Sony's controller when they said they did not include rumble because of the motion sensors. If the Wii could do it why not the PS3?

133.8.2007 22:13
vinny13
Inactive

The Wii has rumble?

Like OMG WTF ORLY?!

Lol that's crap. I was expecting the Wii not to have it... I've tried Wii Sports but I guess no rumble.

I find that retarded. I would turn off the rumble.

143.8.2007 22:20

Originally posted by vinny13:
The Wii has rumble?

Like OMG WTF ORLY?!

Lol that's crap. I was expecting the Wii not to have it... I've tried Wii Sports but I guess no rumble.

I find that retarded. I would turn off the rumble.
that post just lost you 20IQ points,I find rumble a nice feature it would smoke on the WII or PS3 for that matter if its strong enough to effect aiming.

on the WII its even more interesting because you have 1 of them and one 1 whole pad,but I dont think they have it, wait no...they have one....
http://wii.ign.com/articles/718/718946p1.html

LOL
WTF... bugger,oh well LOL

153.8.2007 22:29

Originally posted by vinny13:
The Wii has rumble?

Like OMG WTF ORLY?!

Lol that's crap. I was expecting the Wii not to have it... I've tried Wii Sports but I guess no rumble.

I find that retarded. I would turn off the rumble.
I don't find it all that great myself. There are some interesting uses such as in Zelda when you get close to a hidden item you get a slight rumble in the controller. Otherwise they can take it or leave it.

163.8.2007 22:33

ITs a motion sensetive controller if you ad rumbling it reduces its ability to sense. thats probaly why they did away with it.

173.8.2007 23:15

the wii mote vibrates in wiisports, i bet it was just turned off for you by your friend or you if you own it. my wiimote has high piched screeching noises coming loudly from it, very noticable in games like baseball. it only happens in game. i dont like the wii..

184.8.2007 06:26

Originally posted by DXR88:
ITs a motion sensetive controller if you ad rumbling it reduces its ability to sense. thats probaly why they did away with it.
They didn't do away with it, you can adjust it through the consoles menu vs in game menu.

194.8.2007 06:53

Only time will tell

204.8.2007 07:51

Quote:
Originally posted by DXR88:
ITs a motion sensetive controller if you ad rumbling it reduces its ability to sense. thats probaly why they did away with it.
They didn't do away with it, you can adjust it through the consoles menu vs in game menu.
Sorry, I just realized you may be talking about the PS3 controller (Doh!) I was talking about the Wii controller.

214.8.2007 18:29

dont worry im never specific on any topic and my grammers B-a-aa-a-a-d. >,<

227.8.2007 03:41

It looks like any average ps2 controller to me maybe its the fact its wireless. What do i know :)

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 07 Aug 2007 @ 3:43

237.8.2007 07:23

borhan9, Dont forget the suped up little butten in the center.

247.8.2007 08:19
emugamer
Inactive

Either an electric shock or burning of the hands. How about one that shoots b-b's at you at the exact location you get shot in the game? That would be next gen. Hardcore next gen.

Or how about a laugh controller.....one that laughs at you when you die.

Yeah, as you can tell, I also can do without the rumble.

257.8.2007 11:23
vinny13
Inactive

Originally posted by emugamer:
Either an electric shock or burning of the hands. How about one that shoots b-b's at you at the exact location you get shot in the game? That would be next gen. Hardcore next gen.

Or how about a laugh controller.....one that laughs at you when you die.

Yeah, as you can tell, I also can do without the rumble.
lmao

267.8.2007 13:08

Originally posted by emugamer:
Either an electric shock or burning of the hands. How about one that shoots b-b's at you at the exact location you get shot in the game? That would be next gen. Hardcore next gen.

Or how about a laugh controller.....one that laughs at you when you die.

Yeah, as you can tell, I also can do without the rumble.
I think rumble was a cute effect back in the day, now with motion senceing it could well be more than a effect, but they'll need to dev for it a bit.

2710.8.2007 21:01

Double post.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 10 Aug 2007 @ 9:01

2810.8.2007 21:01

I'm sorry but rumble brings you into the game more than having to "push" or "pull" the controller to get a desired effect in a game. They are right though, rumble is last gen, its also next gen, and next next gen etc.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 10 Aug 2007 @ 9:02

2910.8.2007 21:36

Originally posted by wetsparks:
I'm sorry but rumble brings you into the game more than having to "push" or "pull" the controller to get a desired effect in a game. They are right though, rumble is last gen, its also next gen, and next next gen etc.
thats is BS,rumble outside of a couple effects is moot at best,dual motion is figging awesome.


Now a combination of both that can nudge your aim off target with the motor alone...godly.

3011.8.2007 06:25

Originally posted by DXR88:
ITs a motion sensetive controller if you ad rumbling it reduces its ability to sense. thats probaly why they did away with it.

Yea as i understand PS3 controler has Gyroscopes in it to sense motion while wii uses external sensors (that long stick lke thing that goes under the TV) to track controlers movement. or Am I wrong?
So I asume it wouldn't be good to ad a rumble wmgine next to a gyroscope, while you can get away with motion sensing and rumble on wii.

3111.8.2007 10:09

Quote:
Originally posted by wetsparks:
I'm sorry but rumble brings you into the game more than having to "push" or "pull" the controller to get a desired effect in a game. They are right though, rumble is last gen, its also next gen, and next next gen etc.
thats is BS,rumble outside of a couple effects is moot at best,dual motion is figging awesome.


Now a combination of both that can nudge your aim off target with the motor alone...godly.
When you get hit in Madden, and the controller rumbles, it just feels right. Looking at Lair (which is supposed to use the 6 axis the best so far) having to "push" the controller forward to shoot a fire ball (or is it some gimmick to move forward a bit faster? can't remember) doesn't make me go "Wow! That is so cool!" it makes me say "Do I really have to do this stupid motion when I can just push a button like I have done since the NES? Don't get me wrong, motion sensing can be fun, look at the original duck hunt, but to have it be a lame tie in like most of these companies are doing is just stupid.

3211.8.2007 18:09

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by wetsparks:
I'm sorry but rumble brings you into the game more than having to "push" or "pull" the controller to get a desired effect in a game. They are right though, rumble is last gen, its also next gen, and next next gen etc.
thats is BS,rumble outside of a couple effects is moot at best,dual motion is figging awesome.


Now a combination of both that can nudge your aim off target with the motor alone...godly.
When you get hit in Madden, and the controller rumbles, it just feels right. Looking at Lair (which is supposed to use the 6 axis the best so far) having to "push" the controller forward to shoot a fire ball (or is it some gimmick to move forward a bit faster? can't remember) doesn't make me go "Wow! That is so cool!" it makes me say "Do I really have to do this stupid motion when I can just push a button like I have done since the NES? Don't get me wrong, motion sensing can be fun, look at the original duck hunt, but to have it be a lame tie in like most of these companies are doing is just stupid.
God that screams gimmick..ya motion is going through a growing phaze so gimmickry will be used alot,but I find more subtle non combat vitail stuff to be neater,MP3 has a mix I must have it :P

all devs need to get away from gimmicky crap and focus on gameplay...

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