Originally posted by ThePastor:

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Let's face it. I skipped Vista because:
A) it sucked
B) XP was sufficient

But XP is no longer sufficient. The memory limitations and other restrictions are just going to leave XP in the dust. At some point, whether you want to or not you're going to have to upgrade.

I'm cautiously optimistic that Win7 will be acceptable.
Cooler talk seems to indicate that it won't be too bad.

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why?

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I have to do phone tech support for a software company. Fixing an XP machine is easy. Fixing a Vista machine is impossible.
The UI is a joke, The security is rediculous.
I don't use Vista everyday but I have to deal with other people who do and it's a nightmare.

First thing is almost always... "Turn off UAC"...
Hell, little things like: Vista will assign user rights to a file created on XP such that even an "Administrator" is unable to open the file.

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they just get dumber every day.

Originally posted by ThePastor:

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I have to do phone tech support for a software company. Fixing an XP machine is easy. Fixing a Vista machine is impossible.
The UI is a joke, The security is rediculous.
I don't use Vista everyday but I have to deal with other people who do and it's a nightmare.

First thing is almost always... "Turn off UAC"...
Hell, little things like: Vista will assign user rights to a file created on XP such that even an "Administrator" is unable to open the file.

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thats because all of the advance option are tied into commands. in other words you have to have some knowledge in good old Command lines.

GUI hides things.

I've been running Vista 64 since 2007. Since SP1 it's been very stable and much smoother than XP. Windows 7 on the other hand has been locking up, crashing various games and pretty much running like Vista when it was in beta.

I'm running on a evga 680i, Q6700, 8GB DDR2, evga GTX 280 and raid 0 with 2 x 150gb Raptors.

the first thing to do is to enable the vista secret admin, which is liek the propper admin in XP. then you are sorted

Originally posted by ThePastor:

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First thing is almost always... "Turn off UAC"...

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...That was the first thing I did with windows 7, even before installing chipset drivers! At least it is super-easy, with a link to turn it off in the UAC notification.

BTW...Just installed on my media center, and the Windows 7 Media Center app ACTUALY WORKS!!! It even works with digital channels like channel 3.2, 3.3, 3.4 (something I have been waiting for since XPMCE)

XBMC won't work at all for me under RC1. Have tried 9.04 Babylon Beta, RC1 and the final version which was released yesterday.

However as to stuff that does work ~

I just installed Nero 6.6.0.18 on RC1 as i still use Burning Rom across my machines for multiple concurrent burns (which Imgburn can't do), and it seems to work fine. The annoying 'this program doesn't work' box does pop up, but Nero works if you ignore it.

Office 2007 works fine as expected. So far i've also successfully run the following under RC1 ~

AutoGK 2.55
ConvertXToDVD 2.2.3.258
DVD Flick 1.3.0.6
DVD Rebuilder Pro 1.28.2
DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15
DVDFab HD Decrypter 4.1.2.0
DVDFab Platinum 4.1.2.0 / 5.2.5.0 / 6.0.0.3 Beta
ImgBurn 2.4.4.0 (plus Imgburn's predecessor ie the one that used to be popular for ripping movies)
Insane (old Codemasters driving game) (graphics don't run correctly though this is probably because i'm running the games from the XP install area)
Nero 6.6.0.18 (i only use Burning Rom, can't vouch for other parts of Nero)
VobBlanker 2.1.3.0
Quake III Arena 1.32 (graphics don't run correctly though this is probably because i'm running the games from the XP install area)
Urban Terror 4.1

plus things that were expected to work fine ~
FileZilla
Google Earth
Media Player Classic
Mirc/NNScript
VLC media player 0.9.9

*edited to clarify that i only use Burning Rom, not the other parts of Nero*

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HI, everyone first time to post. I am a xp guy however, I downloaded the new windows 7. At this point im having fun with it. I never thought i would ever stop using xp.The windows 7 has more drivers then xp and vista. Well to get to the point. I too love my nero 6.6.0.16 and .18. when i open the nero smart start click on cd at the top then when i click on data and go to make data cd it tries to open then i get the nero wont work and then it closes. I have nero 8 but love my 6 for my movies. Any work a round this problem?


Thanks for any help

Originally posted by mcclee:

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I too love my nero 6.6.0.16 and .18. when i open the nero smart start click on cd at the top then when i click on data and go to make data cd it tries to open then i get the nero wont work and then it closes. I have nero 8 but love my 6 for my movies. Any work a round this problem?

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Hi and welcome. As per my previous post, 6.6.0.18 works in Windows 7. If you definitely can't get it to work, just use Imgburn (free) for burning the movies ?

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i don't think i've ever seen creaky this active on a thread, not that i go looking for trouble.

SHH!!!.....(he's happy, let him be, or ill get banned again)...


:P

lol

'tis true, i don't often frequent News threads, but i've been absorbed with W7. It's very rare i'm so engrossed in an OS (whatever platform it's for), it's like 24th August 1995 all over again :)

I do post heavily as a normal user, just not in the News section.

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Originally posted by creaky:

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'tis true, i don't often frequent News threads, but i've been absorbed with W7. It's very rare i'm so engrossed in an OS (whatever platform it's for), it's like 24th August 1995 all over again :)

I do post heavily as a normal user, just not in the News section.

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08/24/95? Was that the release of Windows 95? Probably not because I recalled having Windows 95 PC around the middle of 1994. (It crashed a month later)
I'm enjoying Win7. I just trying to get used to this new task bar. I reduced the size of the icons, that helped a little.

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Since all of my data is on a different drive I'll be doing a clean install of the Win 7 RC sometime this weekend plus installing all the programs I ran under Vista. Nice of Microsoft to release this operating system. I have the beta that they released on a DVD but didn't try it out so might as well give the RC a whirl....

My Windows Vista shuts down every two hours and I paid for that.

Originally posted by creaky:

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'tis true, i don't often frequent News threads, but i've been absorbed with W7. It's very rare i'm so engrossed in an OS (whatever platform it's for), it's like 24th August 1995 all over again :)

I do post heavily as a normal user, just not in the News section.

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its a good thing, when i think creaky i think of this skeleton in a closet that never frequents much of anything.

Win7 Is a definite improvement over Vista. it can't be compared to the jump from DOS to 95. 95 brought a multitude of new things that make windows, windows.

BTW i've tried installing 95 on my new rig, it crashes. to advanced for 95.

Originally posted by bsantin:

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My Windows Vista shuts down every two hours and I paid for that.

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Sounds like you bought a pirated beta copy. Legal Windows Vista doesn't shut down like that. Only the beta did (as I remember) close to expiration. Unless (?) you have a lagal copy which you set up to shut your system down every 2 hours & I'd never have an operating system do that!!

I only just noticed my email had a link to the W7 RC earlier this morning. So haven't burned it too a disk yet.

I am looking forward to testing it out on one of my spare drives.

I have Vista Ultimate on my laptop, and actually I like it on there. No problems whatsoever. Works good for my purposes on a laptop.

Otherwise its been XP for like forever. 98, 95, Windows 3.1 before that.

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I can honestly say I'm impressed. Win7 just boots right up onto the desktop without any major slow downs. I checked task manager for any running processes and it had about 40, only a few higher than my XP install. I'm starting to look forward to the release of Win7 seeing as how Microsoft are becoming a little more proficient at building a robust OS.

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Well I had vista in my Dell vastro 200 and I absolutely hated vista. It sucks when you try to run a Radio station on shoutcast with vista. When you run a second player to preview songs before you add them to the on air playlist it caused my station to bog down and many of my listeners left because of vista's problems. Went back to XP (thank god for Dell being smart and adding the XP drivers to the dell driver disk that came with the vostro 200). I had to update the sound card driver but when I went back to xp it made that same dell act as though it was a new machine. I was as happy as a pig in shit for my machine runs fast and flawless. I'll never ever install vista. I've had friends begging me for my serial number for that xp disk and no way will I mess up my legal copy of XP. I've been offered $1,000 for the serial number but still no way. If my XP is worth $1,000 now I can't wait to see how much it will be worth when Windows 7 comes out.

I understand that task bar is way more complicated. Some people say it is more like a mac than Windows. Well if that is true I say Linux will be popular very soon because some distros are more like xp (which I'm use to) so I'd learn linux because more people are going in that direction. There will be hacks to make XP accept higher memory so look for the hacks soon.

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There will be hacks to make XP accept higher memory so look for the hacks soon.

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Mod would be the appropriate term.

Not unless they rebuild XP's Core. There will be no Mod for XP that allows more memory.

Linux in no way shape or form resembles XP at all.

the esiest way to think of it is like this

XP and UP -Command line is built on top of a GUI.

Linux- GUI is built on top of command line.

Windows 7 RC1's first bug ~ http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1003

A-ha - that explains why i was having trouble deleting things yesterday. I got around it each time by just rebooting to XP (triple boot PC) and deleting folders from there. Sounds like a Vista-ism made it's way into the x86 version eh :p

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Well still loving windows 7. I would like to know is their any way to remove IE 8?. I want to go back to IE 7. Just like to know.

Originally posted by mcclee:

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is their any way to remove IE 8?. I want to go back to IE 7. Just like to know.

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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=w...&meta=&aq=f&oq= Try the first link from there

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Thanks creaky will try this soon Have a good day