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Sony says they are sticking with UMD despite waning support

Written by Andre Yoskowitz @ 07 Jul 2007 8:16 User comments (24)

Sony says they are sticking with UMD despite waning support Although movie studio support seems to be waning, Sony's senior marketing manager for PSP John Koller has said that the company has no plans to kill off UMD and will remain committed to the format.
"We'll never walk away from our base. Whether it's movies or game content, third parties have an incredible opportunity to utilize it," he added.

"UMD possesses many strengths, from size to form factor to portability. Duplication of UMDs is much easier, cheaper than cartridges. We've really optimized time and cost by going with a disc-based format,"
Koller noted.

Koller made his comments after news spread that the latest PSP firmware update includes an ISO loader, allowing gamers to play games that have been stored on their Memory Sticks. Many saw the move as a way for Sony to move away from UMD and towards downloadable content.

UMD does have its downside however, Koller admitted. "There's no question the biggest weakness is related to porting games from other platforms. Publishers are concerned about the size of UMD because they can't cram a DVD game on to it," he said.



Legendary Castlevania creator Koji Igarashi added that there were more disadvantages to the format. "The slowness of the seeking speed of UMD is a weakness," he stated, "loading speed becomes a big problem for UMD".

Koller did not mention that disadvantage but made another declaration for UMD. "UMD is a unique medium to create games, and developers need to understand that when tackling the system."

"The future of UMD is bright,"
he concluded.

Source:
GI.biz

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24 user comments

17.7.2007 09:04
vinny13
Inactive

Loading times are a little slow in some games... seems like that with all the Sony systems. But, what I like about them is that they're a lot harder to lose around the house compared to a DS game or GBA.

27.7.2007 09:40

they should have called it "betamax"...

37.7.2007 10:05

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This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 22 May 2020 @ 8:40

47.7.2007 12:11

The sad part is plenty of people are dowlaoding games and putting them on there memeory sticks.

57.7.2007 12:47

when psp gets exclusive content via the psp store.. more companys will jump in.

67.7.2007 13:41
vinny13
Inactive

I don't get it :S

What else would they use instead of UMDs for the PSP? Pro Duo?

77.7.2007 14:16

Seems like MiniDisc all over again.

Sorry Sony but the death knell tolls for thee UMD!!!

87.7.2007 14:49

Sony backign yet another stupid adventure from the company to try and make mass cash, not realising ppl actually hate the UMD's! WTF why get a £10 movie for a PSP! when u can get it for ur DVD player for the same price! Never mind the quality of UMD movies is shocking!

97.7.2007 14:55

Originally posted by vinny13:
I don't get it :S

What else would they use instead of UMDs for the PSP? Pro Duo?

lol,thats what I dont get.Why are people mad that Sony is backing up UMD??? What do yah want the PSP to support DVD's lol

107.7.2007 14:57
vinny13
Inactive

Quote:
Originally posted by vinny13:
I don't get it :S

What else would they use instead of UMDs for the PSP? Pro Duo?

lol,thats what I dont get.Why are people mad that Sony is backing up UMD??? What do yah want the PSP to support DVD's lol
Lol try fitting that in your pocket :P

117.7.2007 19:44

Quote:
[quote]
Originally posted by vinny13:
I don't get it :S

What else would they use instead of UMDs for the PSP? Pro Duo?

lol,thats what I dont get.Why are people mad that Sony is backing up UMD??? What do yah want the PSP to support DVD's lol
Lol try fitting that in your pocket :P[/quote]I agree i think people just on the I hate Sony kick. My only issue with the UMD's are they are to fragile. I broke like 6 games and 2 were new from leaving them in my bag and the PSP hit em or something. They need to support both UMD and online downloading on to a memory stick. That would be nice. But seeing how things are going with Sony that will be something they will add once they see they arent really moving many sales as a backup. Hopefully with the PSP revision at the end of the year they can make the system read the discs faster.

127.7.2007 19:44

Quote:
[quote]
Originally posted by vinny13:
I don't get it :S

What else would they use instead of UMDs for the PSP? Pro Duo?

lol,thats what I dont get.Why are people mad that Sony is backing up UMD??? What do yah want the PSP to support DVD's lol
Lol try fitting that in your pocket :P[/quote]I agree i think people just on the I hate Sony kick. My only issue with the UMD's are they are to fragile. I broke like 6 games and 2 were new from leaving them in my bag and the PSP hit em or something. They need to support both UMD and online downloading on to a memory stick. That would be nice. But seeing how things are going with Sony that will be something they will add once they see they arent really moving many sales as a backup. Hopefully with the PSP revision at the end of the year they can make the system read the discs faster.

138.7.2007 02:24

Originally posted by def&blind:
Sticking with a failing format...only Sony...
How is UMD a failing format it was made for the PSP only it wasn't made to over take another format.UMD has fail in the Movie & Gaming because of Hacking of the PSP & also the price point of there UMD movie's which are high when you can buy the same thing on DVD but the QT of UMD is very good.

148.7.2007 06:52

the UMD is not bad,however sony refuses to sale movies at a reasonable price,or simply pack them with new movie releases,they are stupid no one will buy a 15-20$ UDM movie, its simple first off press a UDM movie and stick it with all DVDs,release blank UMDs that can be burned on a computer sale them for 3-5 a pop its simple you have to build the brand first deverify it and sale at volume at a love price (10 a movie).

Start pressing out classics game discs that are 14.99 a pop get down and dirty with the market fight it hard and you should come out ok but they are just pooing sht out at high prices and wonder why the PSP is failing WTF no wonder the PS3 is doing poorly....

158.7.2007 06:57

kingjoker
ya and their doing it with the DS but tis selling better ...why?
price and qauilty of games is why the DS is bich slapping the PSP into the ground, its simple the PSP is to costly as it is,they want to save it and UDM they will have to start cutting prices and make it a viable option to people.

1. drop another 50$ from the PSP price.
2.lower new UDM moives to 9.99 a poop.
3.lower "classic hits" rereleases to 12.99.
4.start putting a UDM movies in every DVD raise the price of DVDs 99 cents.

Do this and the PSP will regain its footing,if not tis doomed to the pit of being a "media" machine and the PS3 is there as we speak.

168.7.2007 11:19

Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
kingjoker
ya and their doing it with the DS but tis selling better ...why?
price and qauilty of games is why the DS is bich slapping the PSP into the ground, its simple the PSP is to costly as it is,they want to save it and UDM they will have to start cutting prices and make it a viable option to people.

1. drop another 50$ from the PSP price.
2.lower new UDM moives to 9.99 a poop.
3.lower "classic hits" rereleases to 12.99.
4.start putting a UDM movies in every DVD raise the price of DVDs 99 cents.




Do this and the PSP will regain its footing,if not tis doomed to the pit of being a "media" machine and the PS3 is there as we speak.

That sound fair but don't you think it too late the PSP has been hacked all to hell.

178.7.2007 11:38

Quote:
Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
kingjoker
ya and their doing it with the DS but tis selling better ...why?
price and qauilty of games is why the DS is bich slapping the PSP into the ground, its simple the PSP is to costly as it is,they want to save it and UDM they will have to start cutting prices and make it a viable option to people.

1. drop another 50$ from the PSP price.
2.lower new UDM moives to 9.99 a poop.
3.lower "classic hits" rereleases to 12.99.
4.start putting a UDM movies in every DVD raise the price of DVDs 99 cents.




Do this and the PSP will regain its footing,if not tis doomed to the pit of being a "media" machine and the PS3 is there as we speak.

That sound fair but don't you think it too late the PSP has been hacked all to hell.
I don't think the hacking is what "killed" it,I believe it has more than enough power to last another 4 years if they revitalize their whole approach,they might do better by making a PSP 2 thats a bit better designed in the control/button lay out of the unit,top price 200$,fully BWC with the PSP,has a DVD player ADD on for 130$(to compensate for UDM losses reason why its 2 or 3 X the price of normal units hell add on a BR player for 200-300)
add to it with the low UDM movie price and re release prices do what it takes to build the brand up,either way they do it lower prices and more compatibility needs to be added to it to funnel money into it,you don't make a huge profit of each unit you do it by selling 1000s of them.

the PSP failed for a few reasons sonys stagnet format plan high price and lack of games this all adds up to devs not wanting to make games for it but sony is just to blind to give a damn.

1812.7.2007 12:27

hehe ive always thought how strangely similar they look to a mini disk, it was a great way to get rid of all that old stock hehe

1912.7.2007 18:48

I agree. Hacking didn't kill the umd but pricing did. It never made sense to charge as much as dvd's for them, sometimes even more then a dvd with much more content had cost. price killed it. and NOW it's too late to save it I believe.. Maybe sony learned a lesson and with the 100 price drop on the ps3 it seems like maybe they learned.. at least for now...

2013.7.2007 06:00

UMD - Universal Media Disc
why is it ONLY used on psp??
you cant use it on ps1, ps2, ps3, psX... nothing.

UMD = Unused Mini Discs

UMD with a bright future?? maybe a bright flash of light in a fiery mess... but seriously, i dont have a psp, so i dont care about umd. is that why it's failing? because i'm too broke to buy a psp and all of its UMD accessories?? my only reason for wanting a PSP is because everyone else has them, and you can do portable emulation on it and take your retro gaming fun everywhere you go. Super Metroid/Mario World/Street Fighter II/Killer Instinct/StarFox/Zelda/Final Fantasy (insert favorite number for SNES) those would be my top 7 necessary games for emulation on psp. but why should i bother paying a gang of damn money and risking damage to my li'l handheld just so i can enjoy retro crap that i already have and do at home?? i shouldnt. so i dont have a psp and could care less because it's not providing me with something i cant already get, or dont already have.

2113.7.2007 07:45

Yeah but when you have warehouses full of blank mini disk u never sold, all you need to do to sell tham is to stick em into a new caddy and off you go. ;-)

2213.7.2007 08:50

If anything, hacking is the only reason Sony is able to sell a PSP

2313.7.2007 11:35

Originally posted by SProdigy:
If anything, hacking is the only reason Sony is able to sell a PSP
Strange how the psx did so well soon as those 5 wire chips hit the market place everyone went mad.

2414.7.2007 04:15

There is nothing wrong with the UMD Sony has got for the PSP. As long as it does the job i don't see the problem.

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