Alleged pirates sued after ignoring hundreds of ISP copyright notices

This is ridiculous. There is no way anyone can prove that money was lost by the sharing of the songs. There is also no way to prove that any of those alleged pirates would have actually purchased the music. $150,000 for damages, where do these numbers come from? Hopefully those who got the letters don't have a pot to piss in so it's like squeezing blood from a stone. I hate the record labels with a passion these days.

These laws and lawsuits are not new. This has been happening for so many years now. Everyone knows the music industry has their pack of wolves out hunting every uploader they can find.

So no one can claim ignorance. These guys had more than ample warning to stop.

I'm sorry but 288 warnings and the uploader didn't quit. He asked for what's coming to him.

Originally posted by bhetrick:

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These laws and lawsuits are not new. This has been happening for so many years now. Everyone knows the music industry has their pack of wolves out hunting every uploader they can find.

So no one can claim ignorance. These guys had more than ample warning to stop.

I'm sorry but 288 warnings and the uploader didn't quit. He asked for what's coming to him.

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Abso-freakin-lutely AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who the fuck is D.R.I? I assume the band is not a money making machine.
Record companies will never learn. Losing war on drugs and the anti-pirate/record company brigade are a needy bunch of pinheads. The record companies need to concentrate on producing quality recording. The Perfect pitch every note is perfect digital garbage does not reflect the true ability of Joe Blow the band or some teenage young lady trying to make a name for herself.
J

If you grew up a teenager in the 1980's here in America, you know who DRI is, LOL.

Originally posted by ivymike:

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If you grew up a teenager in the 1980's here in America, you know who DRI is, LOL.

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Okay I give... My daughters grew up in the '80's. :-)

DRI was a thrash metal band.

Geez..in the 80's, letting someone duplicate your cassettes was called friendship. Now it's called piracy. What a messed up world we live in today.

Back in the day I used to make 'mix tapes' of the albums I bought, then traded them with my friends and associates. Do that now & you're labeled a pirate... what has this world come to?

Originally posted by pudly1:

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Geez..in the 80's, letting someone duplicate your cassettes was called friendship. Now it's called piracy. What a messed up world we live in today.

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It was always called piracy, dipshit. The main difference is A:) dubbing a tape caused a loss of fidelity in every generation (this loss was even greater if you used a dual-deck's "high speed dub"), so by the second or third dub it sounded like you were listening through mud, and B:) You wouldn't supply copies to strangers around the world. So copying a tape for your friend wasn't looked at as any conceivable threat, because if you liked it, you'd eventually go buy an original once you got sick of the shitty quality of the dub.

Now we are talking about bit-perfect copies that anyone in the world can access 24/7.

These guys get no sympathy from me. They chose to ignore hundreds of quit notices (which the ISP is only obligated to forward THREE before disconnecting your service) and continue to share these files without the protection of a VPN or seedbox.

Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by pudly1:

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Geez..in the 80's, letting someone duplicate your cassettes was called friendship. Now it's called piracy. What a messed up world we live in today.

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It was always called piracy, dipshit.

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Wow, was it really necessary to respond like a total dick to your fellow forumers who are carrying out a discussion like adults?

Originally posted by LordRuss:

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Back in the day I used to make 'mix tapes' of the albums I bought, then traded them with my friends and associates. Do that now & you're labeled a pirate... what has this world come to?

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Jesus you people are dense. "Mix tapes" fall under 'Fair Use', and are NOT piracy - as long as you do not share/sell the compilation and you have legally purchased/acquired the containing album/individual tracks - INCLUDING if you bought albums secondhand or had them gifted to you (see also: First Sale Doctrine). This remains true today. You can legally create a compilation CD of any tracks that you have purchased, AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT SUBSEQUENTLY PUT THAT COMPILATION ON A SHARING SERVICE OR TRY TO SELL IT. You are legally allowed to create an archive backup of any CD that you have legally purchased, and you are legally allowed to convert it to any format you choose (MP3, tape, Gramaphone cylinder, whatever) for your own use (this does NOT apply to DVD/BD, because breaking encryption/DRM for any reason - including invoking Fair Use - is illegal under the DMCA). Where one is "labeled a pirate" is downloading the tracks for their compilation via P2P, or putting their compilation on P2P, or selling compilations.

Why don't you pick up a book, because you look stupid when you spout misinformation and FUD in your argument.

Originally posted by bhetrick:

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Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by pudly1:

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Geez..in the 80s, letting someone duplicate your cassettes was called friendship. Now its called piracy. What a messed up world we live in today.

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It was always called piracy, dipshit.

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Wow, was it really necessary to respond like a total dick to your fellow forumers who are carrying out a discussion like adults?

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Actually, yeah. I call it like I see it. I have no patience for idiots who can't be bothered to educate themselves on a topic they feel the need to participate in.

Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by bhetrick:

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Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by pudly1:

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Geez..in the 80s, letting someone duplicate your cassettes was called friendship. Now its called piracy. What a messed up world we live in today.

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It was always called piracy, dipshit.

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Wow, was it really necessary to respond like a total dick to your fellow forumers who are carrying out a discussion like adults?

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Actually, yeah. I call it like I see it. I have no patience for idiots who can't be bothered to educate themselves on a topic they feel the need to participate in.

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And yet here you are, participating in a topic when you haven't even bothered to educate yourself in the forum rules.

If you have information / insight to share, why not do so like a decent human being? Why not be an asset to the community instead of just another newcomer who gets banned quickly?

Come on brother, show some love. We can all get along.

Originally posted by bhetrick:

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Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by bhetrick:

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Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by pudly1:

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Geez..in the 80s, letting someone duplicate your cassettes was called friendship. Now its called piracy. What a messed up world we live in today.

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It was always called piracy, dipshit.

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Wow, was it really necessary to respond like a total dick to your fellow forumers who are carrying out a discussion like adults?

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Actually, yeah. I call it like I see it. I have no patience for idiots who can't be bothered to educate themselves on a topic they feel the need to participate in.

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And yet here you are, participating in a topic when you haven't even bothered to educate yourself in the forum rules.

If you have information / insight to share, why not do so like a decent human being? Why not be an asset to the community instead of just another newcomer who gets banned quickly?

Come on brother, show some love. We can all get along.

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LOL. I may not post much, but I'm not a "newcomer" by any stretch of the imagination. I've got over 8 years here. I keep to myself until I see some imbecile spewing FUD like diarrhea out of a hippo's ass - then I call it out as such. Stupidity is not an adorable trait. It is contagious if left unchecked.

Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Jesus you people are dense. "Mix tapes" fall under 'Fair Use', and are NOT piracy - as long as you do not share/sell the compilation and you have legally purchased/acquired the containing album/individual tracks - INCLUDING if you bought albums secondhand or had them gifted to you (see also: First Sale Doctrine). This remains true today. You can legally create a compilation CD of any tracks that you have purchased, AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT SUBSEQUENTLY PUT THAT COMPILATION ON A SHARING SERVICE OR TRY TO SELL IT. You are legally allowed to create an archive backup of any CD that you have legally purchased, and you are legally allowed to convert it to any format you choose (MP3, tape, Gramaphone cylinder, whatever) for your own use (this does NOT apply to DVD/BD, because breaking encryption/DRM for any reason - including invoking Fair Use - is illegal under the DMCA). Where one is "labeled a pirate" is downloading the tracks for their compilation via P2P, or putting their compilation on P2P, or selling compilations.

Why don't you pick up a book, because you look stupid when you spout misinformation and FUD in your argument.

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My, aren't we just the subject matter expert here. Nothing was mentioned in my comment that alluded to misinformation. Quit sounding like a top tiered know it all asshole & just leave some information. And for your information I hold two degrees and several hours into a masters degree pertaining to entertainment law.

I would be safe in saying YOU are the one coming off a dense. How about growing up and act like you deserve to be heard.

This Taz newbie appears to be either a government troll, a teenage kid or a very unhappy, miserable person. In any case, I feel sorry for him and the people around him.

Originally posted by LordRuss:

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Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Jesus you people are dense. "Mix tapes" fall under 'Fair Use', and are NOT piracy - as long as you do not share/sell the compilation and you have legally purchased/acquired the containing album/individual tracks - INCLUDING if you bought albums secondhand or had them gifted to you (see also: First Sale Doctrine). This remains true today. You can legally create a compilation CD of any tracks that you have purchased, AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT SUBSEQUENTLY PUT THAT COMPILATION ON A SHARING SERVICE OR TRY TO SELL IT. You are legally allowed to create an archive backup of any CD that you have legally purchased, and you are legally allowed to convert it to any format you choose (MP3, tape, Gramaphone cylinder, whatever) for your own use (this does NOT apply to DVD/BD, because breaking encryption/DRM for any reason - including invoking Fair Use - is illegal under the DMCA). Where one is "labeled a pirate" is downloading the tracks for their compilation via P2P, or putting their compilation on P2P, or selling compilations.

Why don't you pick up a book, because you look stupid when you spout misinformation and FUD in your argument.

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My, aren't we just the subject matter expert here. Nothing was mentioned in my comment that alluded to misinformation. Quit sounding like a top tiered know it all asshole & just leave some information. And for your information I hold two degrees and several hours into a masters degree pertaining to entertainment law.

I would be safe in saying YOU are the one coming off a dense. How about growing up and act like you deserve to be heard.

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For someone with "two degrees and several hours into a masters degree pertaining to entertainment law", you sure are ignorant of how copyright works. Such an "educated" person certainly knows about Fair Use, First Sale Doctrine, and the DMCA, therefore the fact that you made the FUD misinformation statement:

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Back in the day I used to make 'mix tapes' of the albums I bought, then traded them with my friends and associates. Do that now & you're labeled a pirate... what has this world come to?

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means that you are lying about your education, and you're simply an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about.

Originally posted by pudly1:

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This Taz newbie appears to be either a government troll, a teenage kid or a very unhappy, miserable person. In any case, I feel sorry for him and the people around him.

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You feel sorry for me because you're a moron who thinks "piracy" is some new concept? Thanks, I guess..

play fair or i'll be kicking some butt(s) out the door!!!

The irony of all this is that there is more data in favor if piracy actually increasing sales than not.

Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by pudly1:

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This Taz newbie appears to be either a government troll, a teenage kid or a very unhappy, miserable person. In any case, I feel sorry for him and the people around him.

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You feel sorry for me because you're a moron who thinks "piracy" is some new concept? Thanks, I guess..

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[scorn]More likely, pudly feels sorry for you because you continue to ignore the fact that you're arguing about something LordRuss never said, thus (further) implying you're nothing but a sad, angry (and/or paid) troll. Rudeness and ad hominem do not advance your argument, nor does piddling on the boots of long-time, respected forum members.

Yeesh.[/scorn]

@CarpeSol: I agree completely. In fact, I seem to recall 7 separate studies verifying the same thing, although that number is a bit shaky ^^' ...

Originally posted by Bozobub:

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Originally posted by TaZMaNiaK:

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Originally posted by pudly1:

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This Taz newbie appears to be either a government troll, a teenage kid or a very unhappy, miserable person. In any case, I feel sorry for him and the people around him.

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You feel sorry for me because you're a moron who thinks "piracy" is some new concept? Thanks, I guess..

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[scorn]More likely, pudly feels sorry for you because you continue to ignore the fact that you're arguing about something LordRuss never said, thus (further) implying you're nothing but a sad, angry (and/or paid) troll. Rudeness and ad hominem do not advance your argument, nor does piddling on the boots of long-time, respected forum members.

Yeesh.[/scorn]

@CarpeSol: I agree completely. In fact, I seem to recall 7 separate studies verifying the same thing, although that number is a bit shaky ^^' ...

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Well said, Bozobub.