It's official: OnePlus 2 will sell for under $450

Sign me up for one this time.

Wow, that's a VERY good price for those specs. And it'll be even better on eBay after a few months ^^ ...

The specs on this thing are definiely PIMP as you can see here http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_2-6902.php


Too bad no microsdhc card slot though. No expandable memory what-so-ever.

This should probably be more like 399.99

The only real bad thing about this phone is it uses Android and Android is sucky and insecure. Time for a new phone OS to replace Android..it's been too long. While I hate IOS too, at least it's more secure and stable.

Android isn't insecure at all, when done properly. There's more than one Android ROM that's very secure. As for "sucky", well, that's a subjective thing, and I just don't particularly agree ^^' .

Additionally, starting with Lollipop, Android now defaults to using Selinux in "Enforced" mode, greatly increasing security.

Originally posted by Bozobub:

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Android isn't insecure at all, when done properly. There's more than one Android ROM that's very secure. As for "sucky", well, that's a subjective thing, and I just don't particularly agree ^^' .

Additionally, starting with Lollipop, Android now defaults to using Selinux in "Enforced" mode, greatly increasing security.

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Well, indeed you're right that "sucky" is subjective. Still, it's a beast OS, slow as hell after 6 months, 'rather' insecure and did I say SLOW AS HELL after a few months of use. I do hate Android in general. It serves its purpose tho.

Originally posted by hearme0:

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Well, indeed you're right that "sucky" is subjective. Still, it's a beast OS, slow as hell after 6 months, 'rather' insecure and did I say SLOW AS HELL after a few months of use. I do hate Android in general. It serves its purpose tho.

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My S5 is nearly a year old....runs just like new. IF it has slowed down any, it's not noticeable.

Android slowdown-over-time hasn't been an issue for several iterations of the OS - since 4.3 at the latest - except that yes, the OS runs less well when RAM is nearly full. I just didn't feel like chasing around that particular mulberry bush (again) with hearme0 ^^' ...

Now, if you update Android, eventually older programs will start to run less well, or alternatively, if you don't update the OS, newer programs will run less well, because the programs aren't optimized for the version of the OS you're running on, but this is an issue for all OSes, of any kind, on any platform, that maintain compatibility over a long period of time with extant programs. Anyone who has tried to run very old (say, Windows '95) programs on Windows 7/8/10 has come across this issue. And good luck getting the NEW stuff to run on older platforms!

In other words, it's partially true but also baloney.

Originally posted by Bozobub:

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Android slowdown-over-time hasn't been an issue for several iterations of the OS - since 4.3 at the latest - except that yes, the OS runs less well when RAM is nearly full. I just didn't feel like chasing around that particular mulberry bush (again) with hearme0 ^^' ...

Now, if you update Android, eventually older programs will start to run less well, or alternatively, if you don't update the OS, newer programs will run less well, because the programs aren't optimized for the version of the OS you're running on, but this is an issue for all OSes, of any kind, on any platform, that maintain compatibility over a long period of time with extant programs. Anyone who has tried to run very old (say, Windows '95) programs on Windows 7/8/10 has come across this issue. And good luck getting the NEW stuff to run on older platforms!

In other words, it's partially true but also baloney.

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I humbly and whole-heartedly disagree.

As a tech, I see and play with all iterations of Android and while I don't own a cell anymore (ditched it about 2.5 years ago - BEST DECISION EVER!), my wife does. I do use hers. She got an LG G3 with the 2nd latest release of Android, 5.1 or something. 4 months later, slow as HELL!!!!!!!

Only noticed after cleaning it thoroughly with a couple 'select' programs and my expertise of OS in general. 100 percent faster. Web surfing, page-loading, Android homescreen transition, opening progs all faster to an extreme degree.

Maybe I'm just more 'tuned' to the little nuances than most others...maybe.

"I humbly..."

LOL

Ah, I see, hearme0; you equate user-based problems with OS-level problems. That explains a lot.

There is no such thing as a user-proof OS, or any user-facing interface at all. Sometimes, it's just PEBKAC. Furthermore, the type of slowdown you are describing here, happens to afflict ALL user-modifiable installations of any OS. Yes, even Linux, to a degree.