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Update: Limewire installed on only 18 percent of PCs

Written by Andre Yoskowitz @ 28 Dec 2007 6:56 User comments (44)

Update: Limewire installed on only 18 percent of PCs We recently reported that a press release published by Digital Music News claimed that Limewire, the popular P2P program, was installed on over one-third of all home PCs; 36.4 percent to be exact.
TorrentFreak however, citing the raw data from which the press release was built upon, is saying that DMN actually misinterpreted their data and the real install base is just under 18 percent.

The data, collected by PC Pitstop explains that Limewire holds a 36.4 percent market share as compared to other P2P clients meaning that of all the PCs that have a P2P client installed, 36.4 percent have installed Limewire.

Those figures mean that the real install base of Limewire is almost 18 percent, still a large number, but nowhere near the 36.4 percent reported.

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44 user comments

128.12.2007 22:38

Limewire is crap

228.12.2007 22:39
SamNz
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this means 18% of all comp users are complete noobs lol . .

328.12.2007 22:43

Originally posted by SamNz:
this means 18% of all comp users are complete noobs lol . .
too funny

428.12.2007 22:43

Originally posted by SamNz:
this means 18% of all comp users are complete noobs lol . .
yep.

528.12.2007 23:02

Originally posted by SamNz:
this means 18% of all comp users are complete noobs lol . .

And whats the bet 90% of them have tons of viruses from it?

628.12.2007 23:36

Quote:
Originally posted by SamNz:
this means 18% of all comp users are complete noobs lol . .
too funny

word

729.12.2007 01:29

People still use those types of program?????? I am in awe. that is so '99

829.12.2007 01:45

how could anyone install that garbage!
frostwire has a nice removal of spyware, which is good. But, i'll stick to newsgroups. Safe, somewhat, although they are the next target.

929.12.2007 10:20

K,now enuff is enuff. I've been using Lime wire for some time now and I can say there IS NO SPYWARE INSTALLED. For you doofuses who seem to have your heads where the sun don't shine and insist you get viruses from Limewire, let me ask you this are you downloading programs that are 700 - 900 kb in size? If so those are VIRUSES or infected toolbars. Also if you don't scan the files after you bring them in then it's your own fault if you get a virus. Don't blame the program blame the user and in a lot of cases of those 700 - 90 kb files you can also blame the clown who uploaded them. Unlike KaZaA which was full of adware and virus laden programs I've not gotten one from LimeWire so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Logan2057

1029.12.2007 10:57

Originally posted by logan2057:
K,now enuff is enuff. I've been using Lime wire for some time now and I can say there IS NO SPYWARE INSTALLED. For you doofuses who seem to have your heads where the sun don't shine and insist you get viruses from Limewire, let me ask you this are you downloading programs that are 700 - 900 kb in size? If so those are VIRUSES or infected toolbars. Also if you don't scan the files after you bring them in then it's your own fault if you get a virus. Don't blame the program blame the user and in a lot of cases of those 700 - 90 kb files you can also blame the clown who uploaded them. Unlike KaZaA which was full of adware and virus laden programs I've not gotten one from LimeWire so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Logan2057
I agree. There are certain things that Limewire does very well. I've been using Limewire since the demise of kazaa (in addition to other programs) and once you learn the "ins and outs" of the search results you know what to look for. You don't download "Live free or Die Hard" that's 298Kb and expect it to be the full movie and not a virus. Not to mention the ability to look up files easily and conveniently with Bitzi.

1129.12.2007 15:02

Originally posted by logan2057:
K,now enuff is enuff. I've been using Lime wire for some time now and I can say there IS NO SPYWARE INSTALLED. For you doofuses who seem to have your heads where the sun don't shine and insist you get viruses from Limewire, let me ask you this are you downloading programs that are 700 - 900 kb in size? If so those are VIRUSES or infected toolbars. Also if you don't scan the files after you bring them in then it's your own fault if you get a virus. Don't blame the program blame the user and in a lot of cases of those 700 - 90 kb files you can also blame the clown who uploaded them. Unlike KaZaA which was full of adware and virus laden programs I've not gotten one from LimeWire so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Logan2057
Limewire comes with its own Spyware! Thats what everyone complains about.
Of course material you download could have malware. Thats true with everything, not just P2P.
You completely missed the point of the argument.

1229.12.2007 15:14

Best bet is to use emule with the MorphXt mod. Failing that, Usenet is the best place for "acquiring" stuff, provided you dont mind spending an hour learning how to use a newsreader.

1329.12.2007 15:20

P2P is a load of crap now! Bittorrent is the way to go.
Limewire has got to be the worst P2P out of all of them, its has so much crapware with the program.

Get something called Frostwire, its exactly like limwire but theres no free and paid version. Theres just one FREE version without all the crap that limewire has.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 29 Dec 2007 @ 3:41

1429.12.2007 15:20

What bloody point. All I've seen in this thread is a bunch of clowns whining about LimeWire having spyware. It's posted right on the website that it doesn't contain spyware. It looks to me like these guys have never used LimeWire in their lives and are only goin by word of mouth from some one who downloaded a virus cause he got the wrong size file and didn't scan it before he installed. This whole whiny thread reminds me of the windows vs linux debate and which is better. Some people are crack brained on the subject claiming that there are no viruses that go after linux, but there are. It's like anything else each product has its' fans and it's detractors what you use is your choice no one else's.
I've downloaded programs right from the legit website that's had a virus installed at the factory so I know about viruses and how they can show unexpectedly. But this bunch act like a bunch of kindergardeners when the teacher's out of the room
Logan2057

1529.12.2007 15:51
varnull
Inactive

The argument is rather pointless..

The trouble with limewire (and e-mule, e-donkey, morpheus and all the rest) is the way they work.

You are authorising a wide open share on your pc (some morons just share C:.. everything).. open to the world and his dog. Anythying in that folder can be viewed and downloaded by anybody, the mpaa/riaa.. anybody. Browse host?? open door.. Chat with host.. yeah go on.. open me a 2 way port with dcc capabilities why not??

As it comes direct from your IP to the downloader they have you.. lock stock and barrel if it ever comes to court. Trying to plead ignorance of who put the material there is no defence (as seen with a recent $220,000 fine for a sharer.)

Then there are the unscrupulous users (people like me.. heh heh heh) who have some lovely self installing hidden p2p/ftp software (malware/virus.. call it what you want.. to people who control these things they aren't malware) we want to install on your machine so we can share our criminal content material around our friends...

Simple.. we pack it up nice, with all it's buttons pressed, call it soemthing lovely and tempting like "britney_nude12/07" and put it in a share folder, possibly on some unsuspecting n00bs machine that has already been exploited, and wait for it calling home as people download it and click it to look at the avi or jpg or whatever it is.
There is a little trick (not telling) which will download it to you without you even doing any more than browse the file. Nice huh?

Now on torrent sites this method doesn't work too well.. users can comment, and believe.. they report virus/malware quick enough....

That's why not to install and use limewire or any of the other outdated p2p applications.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 29 Dec 2007 @ 4:01

1629.12.2007 16:30
duckNrun
Inactive

So that fake file of nude Britney Spears I got came from you eh? ;-)

lol

1729.12.2007 17:41

Originally posted by duckNrun:
So that fake file of nude Britney Spears I got came from you eh? ;-)

lol
LOL!

1829.12.2007 19:24

the fact is that p2p sharing programs are on the outer and torrents are the way to go. The sharing has not changed just the means of sharing.

1929.12.2007 19:32

Bit Torrent?! That piece of overrated garbage. I tried to download something the other night for a friend, a small file only 58 KB in size and it was going to take over two days to get it. I finally found it online at another site and downloaded it and it only took 15 seconds.
And if you were one of the infantile fools that like to insert viruses to infect other's computers then you made a big mistake admitting it. Cause all I'd do is block your domain from my computer. I don't believe limewire is outdated, but being wrongly used by morons with no sense of judgment or common sense in their infantile skulls. That being said in my opinion enough is enough.
End of conversation.

2029.12.2007 20:48

Originally posted by logan2057:
Bit Torrent?! That piece of overrated garbage. I tried to download something the other night for a friend, a small file only 58 KB in size and it was going to take over two days to get it. I finally found it online at another site and downloaded it and it only took 15 seconds...I don't believe limewire is outdated, but being wrongly used by morons with no sense of judgment or common sense in their infantile skulls...

All those 100MB torrents downloading in 10 minutes and 4+ gigs in a couple hours don't seem overrated to me. Maybe I'm a moron with no common sense, because I thought torrents were always large downloads.

I know I wrongly used limewire when someone convinced me to look for their crap music with it. I installed it and it wouldn't connect to the network. Gave me some error messages that seemed to be trying to goad me into shutting down my firewall./rant

I think I'll delete limewire and figure out newsgroups.

2129.12.2007 22:51

Originally posted by logan2057:
Bit Torrent?! That piece of overrated garbage. I tried to download something the other night for a friend, a small file only 58 KB in size and it was going to take over two days to get it. I finally found it online at another site and downloaded it and it only took 15 seconds.
And if you were one of the infantile fools that like to insert viruses to infect other's computers then you made a big mistake admitting it. Cause all I'd do is block your domain from my computer. I don't believe limewire is outdated, but being wrongly used by morons with no sense of judgment or common sense in their infantile skulls. That being said in my opinion enough is enough.
End of conversation.
Excuse me?? Are you hearing yourself? Using Limewire is asking to get sued, plain and simple. We understand (after your multiple spam posts) that you love Limewire, thats fine, but DO NOT try to say that its better than Newsgroups, BitTorrent, Warez or any other safer and faster method of file sharing. Enjoy downloading files from the MPAA and RIAA at slow speeds :)

2229.12.2007 23:02
varnull
Inactive

Originally posted by duckNrun:
So that fake file of nude Britney Spears I got came from you eh? ;-)

lol
Quite possibly.. If you think it did nothing then please check for hide.exe lurking well down in a hidden directory below system32. (just possibly you have the true stealth version which will be running a random svchost from somewhere else than system32)..

See.. I'm nice really.

Anyway.. to continuing limewire users.. Look forward to see your names in the "busted and fined monster amounts" section in your local paper.

Personally I would rather go to jail for something worthwhile, like armed robbery, or online mulit million $$ fraud (especially as they usually don't ever trace the money) than get a couple of years for some stupid songs they play over and over on the radio all day. Because I wouldn't pay any extortionate fine, or settle with the a-holes who are ripping us all off.

/rant

2329.12.2007 23:17

<opinion>
1. Newsgroups
2. Bittorrent
3. Soulseek biznatchezzzz......
</opinion>

pwnage.

2429.12.2007 23:19

^I hate stupid people like you

2530.12.2007 01:40

Is your computer running smooth? Is it`s performance at it`s peak? Well, if it is... dowmload Limewire! It will break down it`s will to work properly! It will slow it down to a crawl, and keep you wondering for hours whats wrong with it! Limewire!!! you get what you pay for!

2630.12.2007 03:55
duckNrun
Inactive

Originally posted by magnaman:
... you get what you pay for!
Aint that the truth!

Last month I paid $90 for an hour with this escort that advertised she was a Britney Spears look alike... when the knock on the door came she turned out to be a 3' 6" tall version of something from the Rocky Horror Picture Show!

Then to make matters worse I downloaded this file named "britney_nude12/07.avi" only to find out that it was Varnull in drag AND he was infected with some nasty virus! To insure the safety of my machine I immediately wiped my HD and put an earlier untainted image back on. Now if I could only somehow wipe my own memory to remove the image of him shakin his a$$ to 'Hit Me Baby One More Time"...

hehe j/k mate couldn't resist crackin a joke!

2730.12.2007 04:17
varnull
Inactive

Dunno where you get the HE from

2830.12.2007 04:22
duckNrun
Inactive

Gender Bias while I was typing, plus sounded funnier that way ;-)

2930.12.2007 04:24
varnull
Inactive

Ahhh.. assumptions.. those things that keep people like limewire in business.

3030.12.2007 04:29
duckNrun
Inactive

lol.... no I said Gender Bias :P

3130.12.2007 04:37
varnull
Inactive

hehehehe.. I wasn't going to go down that road. ;-)

3230.12.2007 04:37

Quote:
Originally posted by duckNrun:
So that fake file of nude Britney Spears I got came from you eh? ;-)

lol
Quite possibly.. If you think it did nothing then please check for hide.exe lurking well down in a hidden directory below system32. (just possibly you have the true stealth version which will be running a random svchost from somewhere else than system32)..

See.. I'm nice really.

Anyway.. to continuing limewire users.. Look forward to see your names in the "busted and fined monster amounts" section in your local paper.

Personally I would rather go to jail for something worthwhile, like armed robbery, or online mulit million $$ fraud (especially as they usually don't ever trace the money) than get a couple of years for some stupid songs they play over and over on the radio all day. Because I wouldn't pay any extortionate fine, or settle with the a-holes who are ripping us all off.

/rant
WOW big tough hacker!
Funny how its always the ones with the least knowledge that advertise there "skills".
Good luck with all the "mayhem" you've caused. You are the reason real programmers get a bad rep.

3330.12.2007 04:55
duckNrun
Inactive

Originally posted by varnull:
hehehehe.. I wasn't going to go down that road. ;-)
LMAO... good one!

And for the record... I said gender BIAS not preference! lol

Although I did have a bi once tell me that going both ways does double the chances of having a date on any given Friday night...but that's a topic for a different forum me thinks PMSL

cheers!

3430.12.2007 18:12

Originally posted by IM1:
P2P is a load of crap now! Bittorrent is the way to go.
Limewire has got to be the worst P2P out of all of them, its has so much crapware with the program.

Get something called Frostwire, its exactly like limwire but theres no free and paid version. Theres just one FREE version without all the crap that limewire has.

unlike limewire, BT forces you to share what you're downloading which increases your chances of getting caught

3530.12.2007 18:23

Originally posted by magnaman:
Is your computer running smooth? Is it`s performance at it`s peak? Well, if it is... dowmload Limewire! It will break down it`s will to work properly! It will slow it down to a crawl, and keep you wondering for hours whats wrong with it! Limewire!!! you get what you pay for!

i've been using limewire for over 2 years now and have had NO slowdown of my computer

3630.12.2007 18:28

limewires the pits,anything half decent on its always waiting on busy hosts:(

3730.12.2007 22:14
FlakMNKEY
Inactive

I don't know where you limewire haters are getting your information, but it's the best program out there. It comes with absolutly no spyware or other programs, I use multiple spyware and adware detecting and removing software and have not had one single problem.

I even removed limewire from my pc and downloaded a new copy after reading all these statements and nothing else was installed or added. and no there were no additional svchost's listed in my task manager.

If you guys were smart you would know what files to download and what not to. anything thats like 15kb's in size is a no no. Anything that only 1 person is sharing is a no no. always use bitzi web lookup. and peer guardian and you will be safe.

The only time I use utorrent is when I can't find what im looking for on limewire.

3830.12.2007 22:55

could you explain (always use bitzi web lookup. and peer guardian) in more detail to me, always ready to learn anything about safer surfing with limewire.

3930.12.2007 23:03

Even at 18% that will keep those lawyers busy! So, if you are the gambling type, there is safety in numbers. It is like a school of fish with other fish feeding on the school. The lawyers have not sued 100,000 out of the 50 million+ US users.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 31 Dec 2007 @ 5:26

4030.12.2007 23:20

Originally posted by varnull:
Originally posted by duckNrun:
So that fake file of nude Britney Spears I got came from you eh? ;-)

lol
Quite possibly.. If you think it did nothing then please check for hide.exe lurking well down in a hidden directory below system32. (just possibly you have the true stealth version which will be running a random svchost from somewhere else than system32)..

See.. I'm nice really.

Anyway.. to continuing limewire users.. Look forward to see your names in the "busted and fined monster amounts" section in your local paper.

Personally I would rather go to jail for something worthwhile, like armed robbery, or online mulit million $$ fraud (especially as they usually don't ever trace the money) than get a couple of years for some stupid songs they play over and over on the radio all day. Because I wouldn't pay any extortionate fine, or settle with the a-holes who are ripping us all off.

/rant
Seriously dude, wtf... I know you know nothing about the things you just said in that post, and even then, why are you wasting your time?

But honestly, limewire may not be good, but frostwire is certainly effective for downloading songs. Much more efficient than using torrents, where you'd have to download the entire album anyway.

However, the best method of file sharing IMO is rapidshare. If you're willing to pay $10, you'll have virtually unlimited files to download, with sites like warez-bb.org (not promoting here, just giving the best example) having over 100k apps, 100k movies, and 30k games. Plus, there's virtually a 0% chance of getting caught because it's a direct download that can't be monitored by an outside company because you're not sharing it in any way.

4131.12.2007 00:39

You are forgetting one of my favorite and lesser known way of getting content...IRC.

4231.12.2007 03:34

Pff.

Some info:
- Torrents, like most P2P methods, can take a significant period of time to start. I have not, however, EVER seen Limewire, eMule, or any othe P2P protocol match BT for raw speed. I regularly max my d/l pipe (~1.5 MByte/s, no not megabit - lol) due to the traffic of just 1-3 torrents. To get even close to that performance in any other P2P client, you'd generally have to be running 20-40 popular transfers concurrently.
- You do NOT have to d/l an entire album, discography, or whatever in BitTorrent (BT). Any decent client lets you select individual files within a torrent.
- The Gnutella network (Shareaza, Limewire, bearshare, Soulseek, etc.) is riddled with RIAA/MPAA and other anti-P2P countermeasures. That's ignoring the virii, mind you.
- Of the more traditional P2P programs, eMule and its clones are usually the best.
- PeerGuardian, while potentially useful, does NOT make you safe, any more than holding a bit of cardboard over your head protects you from an intense cloudburst.
- People crying about BT requiring uploading while they are downloading are exactly the main problem with P2P! How the hell do you think files get on the networks for you to download..?! Oh, yeah, that's right: somebody is uploading them. Jeez, if everybody takes that stinky leech attitude, the RIAA/MPAA won't have to do much at all to kill P2P. In fact, their methods are designed to encourage exactly this. If noone uploads, noone downloads, period.
- For large files newsgroups, RapidShare, and BT (approximately in that order for speed/efficiency)are pretty much the way to go.
________________
"Master, what is Zen?" *WHACK* "Shut up and eat your breakfast!"

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 31 Dec 2007 @ 2:46

4331.12.2007 03:57
FlakMNKEY
Inactive

Originally posted by FredBun:
could you explain (always use bitzi web lookup. and peer guardian) in more detail to me, always ready to learn anything about safer surfing with limewire.
Bitzi web lookup - Right click the file you want to download and under advanced I think it is. select lookup bitzi, about 80% of files on limwire are reviewed and have comments and ratings posted about them.

PeerGuardian is a program that you can download off of this site, just search it. However do not use it when doing normal web activities, gaming, etc. Your connection and loading times will be terrible. It works great with limewire and is meant to keep the RIAA and MPAA from accessing your computer.

4431.12.2007 22:54

Quote:
Originally posted by logan2057:
Bit Torrent?! That piece of overrated garbage. I tried to download something the other night for a friend, a small file only 58 KB in size and it was going to take over two days to get it. I finally found it online at another site and downloaded it and it only took 15 seconds.
And if you were one of the infantile fools that like to insert viruses to infect other's computers then you made a big mistake admitting it. Cause all I'd do is block your domain from my computer. I don't believe limewire is outdated, but being wrongly used by morons with no sense of judgment or common sense in their infantile skulls. That being said in my opinion enough is enough.
End of conversation.
Excuse me?? Are you hearing yourself? Using Limewire is asking to get sued, plain and simple. We understand (after your multiple spam posts) that you love Limewire, thats fine, but DO NOT try to say that its better than Newsgroups, BitTorrent, Warez or any other safer and faster method of file sharing. Enjoy downloading files from the MPAA and RIAA at slow speeds :)

DVDback23, you can't get sued using limewire if you don't share-with BT, you're FORCED to share what you're downloading which increases your chances of getting sued

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