Windows 7 RTM released to developers

Just what the pubic need another overpriced Microsoft product.

Originally posted by bbbob:

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Just what the pubic need another overpriced Microsoft product.

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I was going to write something but i couldnt have said it better than you.

No truer words have been said. :)

Do you know what one of the ULTIMATE-ONLY features is ...?

XP MODE!!!

Fork over 300.00+ so you can have an XP modeto run all your unsupported apps!

LAME microsoft really LAME!!!

Windows 7 is nothing more than Vista SP3 with the discredited and disparaged "Vista" name eliminated -- yet some people will be foolish enough to buy it.

One of its features: XP Mode! Even after 10 years, XP is still the best and most reliable operating system that has come out of MS development. Everything it has released since has literally been a downgrade accompanied by a lot of hype in an attempt to convince the gullible otherwise.

Originally posted by Charis301:

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Windows 7 is nothing more than Vista SP3 with the discredited and disparaged "Vista" name eliminated -- yet some people will be foolish enough to buy it.

One of its features: XP Mode! Even after 10 years, XP is still the best and most reliable operating system that has come out of MS development. Everything it has released since has literally been a downgrade accompanied by a lot of hype in an attempt to convince the gullible otherwise.

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Have you tried Vista or 7?

I have ran beta, rc, and now rtm and I persoanlly love Seven. Its fast, smooth, and sexy all at the same time. Running it on 3 computers in a business enviornment and every app runs like a champ. Some apps you have to run in compatiblity mode to install but after that they all work fine. I think this is the first app from Microsoft that I want to go out and purchase plus they are giving it away with the pre-order upgrade prices they have out right now.

Originally posted by Tesler32:

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I have ran beta, rc, and now rtm and I persoanlly love Seven. Its fast, smooth, and sexy all at the same time. Running it on 3 computers in a business enviornment and every app runs like a champ. Some apps you have to run in compatiblity mode to install but after that they all work fine. I think this is the first app from Microsoft that I want to go out and purchase plus they are giving it away with the pre-order upgrade prices they have out right now.

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Thats what I was getting at. I find that most people who talk down about Vista and 7 have never tried either and are stuck in the past with XP (which is NOT better). Already purchased 7 upgrade for $50 and will use it in new rig I'm building.

I've been using Windows 7 since the BETA stage and it REALLY IS a much improved OS and I will buy it when it is available to me. The few bugs are worth the wait for them to get things right!

This may sound stupid well it is, but think of it this way. If you buy Windows 7 you are helping charity, because Bill Gates Is using his enormous fortune to help people. However I'm not purchasing it! -- LOL

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Originally posted by Tesler32:

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I have ran beta, rc, and now rtm and I persoanlly love Seven. Its fast, smooth, and sexy all at the same time. Running it on 3 computers in a business enviornment and every app runs like a champ. Some apps you have to run in compatiblity mode to install but after that they all work fine. I think this is the first app from Microsoft that I want to go out and purchase plus they are giving it away with the pre-order upgrade prices they have out right now.

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Thats what I was getting at. I find that most people who talk down about Vista and 7 have never tried either and are stuck in the past with XP (which is NOT better). Already purchased 7 upgrade for $50 and will use it in new rig I'm building.

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Yes really if everyone were to stay on the same old os with the same old apps nothing would improve. There would be a huge lose of jobs. The people that make the OS's the people that build all the software and by god the people that make all the viruses for people to make the anti-virus softwares. OMG the whole world will end if everyone doesnt upgrade to windows 7!!! LOL For everyone that is still stuck on XP! try the RC for windows 7 and you will never go back to XP. I used to say the same thing about Vista when it first came out and now vista and 7 are the only os's I use to date.

Of course, everyone is in favor of progress and improvement. The problem is that newer doesn't always equate to better. Vista and 7 require significantly more processing power and memory than many people have on their 5 or 6-year-old computers, without providing any significant added benefit. Most businesses don't want to have anything to do with Vista (and probably won't rush out to buy 7 either).

My computer is just several months old...it came with Vista pre-installed, it has Intel's latest Core i7 processor and several times more memory than needed to operate the system. I wanted to like Vista -- I just don't see any advantage to it. Many of the people praising Vista and 7 are MS employees or others who have a vested interest in its success.

The fact is that these resource-hungry operating systems do little more than force people to go out and buy new computers that they don't really need. Well, who knows, maybe it will give the economy a needed boost and allow Barrack to take credit for it.

Originally posted by Charis301:

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Of course, everyone is in favor of progress and improvement. The problem is that newer doesn't always equate to better. Vista and 7 require significantly more processing power and memory than many people have on their 5 or 6-year-old computers, without providing any significant added benefit. Most businesses don't want to have anything to do with Vista (and probably won't rush out to buy 7 either).

My computer is just several months old...it came with Vista pre-installed, it has Intel's latest Core i7 processor and several times more memory than needed to operate the system. I wanted to like Vista -- I just don't see any advantage to it. Many of the people praising Vista and 7 are MS employees or others who have a vested interest in its success.

The fact is that these resource-hungry operating systems do little more than force people to go out and buy new computers that they don't really need. Well, who knows, maybe it will give the economy
a needed boost and allow Barrack to take credit for it.

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It all makes the world go round. New OS new computer new software new people to train new people to work more people to use new software for new os. ahh Well I cant change everyone's mind. I am a certified microsoft partner but thats just for my company and to get the party pack every quarter. Its been fun posting.

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Originally posted by Tesler32:

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I have ran beta, rc, and now rtm and I persoanlly love Seven. Its fast, smooth, and sexy all at the same time. Running it on 3 computers in a business enviornment and every app runs like a champ. Some apps you have to run in compatiblity mode to install but after that they all work fine. I think this is the first app from Microsoft that I want to go out and purchase plus they are giving it away with the pre-order upgrade prices they have out right now.

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Thats what I was getting at. I find that most people who talk down about Vista and 7 have never tried either and are stuck in the past with XP (which is NOT better). Already purchased 7 upgrade for $50 and will use it in new rig I'm building.

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I'm a power user I haven't used 7 yet but it really is what Vista was suppose to be plus a few extras of course. As to Vista & XP I wouldn't say that Vista is hands down better then XP and in fact it is not. Vista has stability issues, is slow with file support, ethernet support is slow and not always stable, if you don't have at least 2G of RAM you run slow, it is somewhat like ME as it bloats fast so extra HDD space is required, UAC is a total joke and should have never been put into Vista let alone carrying it over to 7, and I coould go on and on but is it really worth it. There are some very nice things about Vista as well but over all it really isn't that good and that is exactly why businesses WILL NOT migrate to it!

I remember when XP came out,everyone bashing it here and there,now its the saving grace.....

Administer 2 Vista PCs at work, can't stand working with it for any longer than 30 seconds. Later got Notebook with Vista pre-installed, didn't even boot into it, just wiped it completely (including hidden partition) and installed XP and Ubuntu Linux(preferred OS).

Windows 7 sounds better than Vista and could be better than XP but I have my doubts. XP is a great OS and can be customised to look and feel like Vista or 7 anyways.

However none of Ms OSs match my Archlinux install for stability, speed, security and features, not even close.

Yawn! Ms OSs are just bloated, restrictive messes with some pretty fluff to make it appear worth more than $25AUD. Boring!

I'd hand over my money to buy some toe rot before I'd spend on Ms products.

Originally posted by dos2k6:

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I remember when XP came out,everyone bashing it here and there,now its the saving grace.....

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i was in the same boat because 98 was sooooo great!! now with xp, it's like, the only thing that should have ever existed. i tried to bash the crap out of xp until my friend told me that i didnt have to restart my pc every time i made changes to my network connection. i think i was sold on the fact that i didnt have to reboot after every device that was added. originally i used a dual boot, but moved fully to xp after about 3-4 months of going back and forth.

with vista, again, i was still clinging to my old ways of keeping an os that is good and running like i want with minimal issues. i heard horror stories for the first few months or whatever, and never took the time to learn how to use it effectively. i have a box that can run it fairly well, but i already have xp running like i want and dont really want to mess that up right now.

with 7, i have the beta and the rc. once again, i just dont want to change from what i have right now since i know for a fact that it works. i have an extra system that i can use to test, but it's not a powerhouse of a system that would make 7 be as good as it can be. i'll probably put 7 on one of my boxes, but, "if it ain't broke don't try to fix it" applies here. i have a great system running for a couple of years now, minimal issues, does what i need, minimal issues, fair speed without having to build a super computer, minimal issues.

i guess until i have no choice but to buy new equipment, xp will still be my champ. and even then with new equipment, who's to say that i will really want 7.

Originally posted by Charis301:

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Of course, everyone is in favor of progress and improvement. The problem is that newer doesn't always equate to better. Vista and 7 require significantly more processing power and memory than many people have on their 5 or 6-year-old computers, without providing any significant added benefit. Most businesses don't want to have anything to do with Vista (and probably won't rush out to buy 7 either).

My computer is just several months old...it came with Vista pre-installed, it has Intel's latest Core i7 processor and several times more memory than needed to operate the system. I wanted to like Vista -- I just don't see any advantage to it. Many of the people praising Vista and 7 are MS employees or others who have a vested interest in its success.

The fact is that these resource-hungry operating systems do little more than force people to go out and buy new computers that they don't really need. Well, who knows, maybe it will give the economy a needed boost and allow Barrack to take credit for it.

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Firstly I think you are giving to much credit vista SP3 I think it is more SP4. Vista was a big flop, which is what people are complaining about no one got there money worth using it (how old is it and is gone) (I will say it was more likely to the manufactors not up to speed because someone will come along in this thread and say they have no problems). I got my new laptop about 18 months after vista release thinking they would have solved all the problems, nope had to spend hours no actually days trying to find XP drivers and yes it worked beautifully. I have since upgraded to the 7 packages and it runs well also. The other major thing is it is not a resource hog as vista was or as slow, I also have it running on a 5 year old laptop, the only problem is not all drivers are supported.

So if you have XP get the new version, and a few upgrades of ram (I can run with 512 but 1024 should be enough if you don't do too much which are cheap these days, if you have Vista hold out for a better price

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Originally posted by Charis301:

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vista SP3 I think it is more SP4

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I'm not sure what you meant by that. We're on SP2 for Vista...

Anyway, I'm not affiliated in any way with MS and try to remain quite unbiased. I haven't purchased a MS operating system, unless it came pre-installed on one of my second-hand laptops, for over ten years. I had to break down and purchase Windows 7. This pre-sale deal was too good to pass up. Everything I've read from reliable sources (as in NOT listening to the writing on the wall we have here) has had nothing but good things to say about Windows 7. Also, this OS has really almost nothing to do with Vista, other than some of the aesthetics, so those people who have said it is are just plain wrong. I still have my reservations about buying it, but I figure it was only $50, so even if I don't use it, no big loss. I must say I have my hopes up, though.
I'm sure MS has their hopes up too. I really don't think they can afford to screw this one up. The world will change if Win7 is no good. There is already signs of vacuum in the market: The Chrome OS, Apple/Ubuntu gaining in popularity, not to mention the plethora of handheld OS.

What comes through loud and clear in all these comments both logical and absurd is that those who are whining about Windows 7 and calling it Vista Service Pack 3 or 4 have quite obvously never even tried Windows 7 because the moment they did, they would have to eat their words.
However, they don't want to eat their words , they want to go on ranting and bleating about how tewwible naughty Micwosoft is and how beastly Billy Gate is and will therefore never even get near to Windows 7 to discover what a revelation it is after the crap of Vista.
Let them hide in their XP holes and continue trolling , the rest of us can get on with Windows 7.

Originally posted by domie:

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What comes through loud and clear in all these comments both logical and absurd is that those who are whining about Windows 7 and calling it Vista Service Pack 3 or 4 have quite obvously never even tried Windows 7 because the moment they did, they would have to eat their words.
However, they don't want to eat their words , they want to go on ranting and bleating about how tewwible naughty Micwosoft is and how beastly Billy Gate is and will therefore never even get near to Windows 7 to discover what a revelation it is after the crap of Vista.
Let them hide in their XP holes and continue trolling , the rest of us can get on with Windows 7.

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Hmm. Well said. Let them live in the past with XP. I'm ready for something new.
Now I see what he meant by Vista SP3 or SP4. Bad joke. Especially when SP3 for Vista actually does get released.

Wish I would have taken advantage of the pre 7 pricing. Xp's good but won't be supported for long. Can you say "no more vulnerability updates?" Installed 7 RC on spare computer [Celeron tualatin 1400, 512 Megs ram, OCed to 1600] but haven't had a chance to use it. Building a yard sale P4 1500 now and will install Ubbuntu 904 after XP and 7 RC. All OS systems nowadays are being attacked and it's great M$ finally gave up on mandatory IE installation. Although Firefox has constant updates and just got notification of an 3.52 update which I'll avoid for a time after the 3.5 vulnerability. Opera is a good browser just not supported by most websites.