EA "loves" the Wii U

Ipad 2.. HAH, it will never feel like an Ipad 2 and its because the controller is not a stand alone system.

The only game console that will have $150 controllers...this is going to be a monstrous fail.

In fact it isnt going to be a big fail . it will be a huge success . Just look how much the price of a ps3 was at launch. People will rush to get it. Yeh not hardcore gamers but the same people that bought the wii will want the newest and best hardware out (until xbox720 or ps4)

They're obviously completely tossing their highly successful business model away that they used for the previous Wii. The reason it seemed like everyone in existence bought a Wii was because they were really inexpensive compared to other consoles and had a decent library of games. This was perfect for the casual gamer who didn't want to drop months of discretionary income to keep the kids entertained and occasionally play a game/exercise on Wii Fit.

I don't see how they're going to keep the cost down over time because essentially it looks like every controller is a handheld gaming console (like buying a Nintendo DS for each player @ $150 a pop...which will probably never drop below $100/controller). Another big issue is the abuse that game controllers get by frustrated gamers (along with normal wear and tear). There is no multiplayer game that was on the Wii that I would have paid an extra $150 per person to play. That goes for a Playstation or XBox as well.

The issue is, once the first few thousand sell; people are going to see the controller is not a stand alone system it MUST function with Wii-U, and so overall sales will plummet. Go the way of 3DS for software, and sales won't even happen.

@IguanaC64
Nintendo charging a $150 controller? Highly unlikely, this is Nintendo we are talking about who go out of there way to make things affordable.

@Mysttic
You're about 3 months late on that issue. Granted there was confusion at E3, but Nintendo has cleared that up. Nintendo's PR and marketing will take care of answering questions.

Hrm...a "hardened" tablet PC? The cheap Chinese tablet clones are as low as $70. I easily see the first ones costing $150 to get that "bleeding edge" market of people who absolutely have to have things first. It will probably be at least three months before they drop to what will be their stable price which I see being about $99. How low do you think these custom tablet computers are going to go?

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You're about 3 months late on that issue. Granted there was confusion at E3, but Nintendo has cleared that up. Nintendo's PR and marketing will take care of answering questions.

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It's not an issue, it's a fact dude; Nintendo already claimed that indeed the controller will not be stand-alone, so I re-iterating why this will flop and how in no way it can compare to an iPad because although it functions like one, it can not be used outside of the house. So unless Nintendo went back to the drawing board and shows off something different at next year's E3, or give the public/investors what they wanted, this system will flop.

True the same thing was said about Wii, and it practically out-sold nearly every console to date; but it's marketing to a fad that is already dieing. Even if EA is all excited and on-board, fine but come E3 you better be showing off some impressive titles because as we all know, talk is cheap.

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No one thinks its going to replace an iPad 2 but it is playing into what a consumer feels comfortable with.

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WTF? Does the new controller have a bunch of unannounced features or something? Why would they even mention the iPad? I can tell just by looking at it that gamers won't be comfortable with it too much if only because the controls are the same kind of uncomfortable controls you find on mobile game platforms.

The mention of the iPad 2 is merely a sales tactic. Guilt or uh, success by association.

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You're about 3 months late on that issue. Granted there was confusion at E3, but Nintendo has cleared that up. Nintendo's PR and marketing will take care of answering questions.

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It's not an issue, it's a fact dude; Nintendo already claimed that indeed the controller will not be stand-alone, so I re-iterating why this will flop and how in no way it can compare to an iPad because although it functions like one, it can not be used outside of the house. So unless Nintendo went back to the drawing board and shows off something different at next year's E3, or give the public/investors what they wanted, this system will flop.

True the same thing was said about Wii, and it practically out-sold nearly every console to date; but it's marketing to a fad that is already dieing. Even if EA is all excited and on-board, fine but come E3 you better be showing off some impressive titles because as we all know, talk is cheap.

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You're right it is a fact, thanks for stating the obvious. Like I said Nintendo stated after E3 the confusion over the controller and that when it comes close to its release date, they'll make sure there is no misleading information. Besides I don't know why people are comparing the IPad to the Wii U, hell Nintendo has already done the DS, so touch screen controls are nothing new to them. It is just another form of interacting with the games and who gives a damn about investors. They're in it for the cash, they don't work in the gaming sector.

Nintendo has already stated their mishaps with the Wii and seek to rectify them by being more involved with third party developers along with having full functioning online for multiplayer. If you don't like Nintendo that's fine, but Nintendo has talk about these issues ever since the announcement of the Wii U. You're either choosing to ignore them, or haven't read up to speed.

@deucezulu22
Nice piece of spam you shill. Why is there misleading information now? Why didn't you upload an infomercial with your post?

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@deucezulu22
Nice piece of spam you shill. Why is there misleading information now? Why didn't you upload an infomercial with your post?

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Or how about you add something to the discussion besides being a dick.

Don't get me wrong, I am by no means a Nintendo hater. I loved my old SNES. My family has two NDS's and we had a Wii for years that was well used until it was stolen. The reason I bought a Wii was because $200 was much more affordable than a $600 PS3 and I had young kids who were more Mario oriented than Grand Theft Auto oriented. I get it...the Wii was never really meant for the hardcore/older gamer. It was meant for pre-teen/young teens and casual adult gamers.

The new Wii had better be geared to hardcore gamers because I can't see the cost of the WiiU being on par with the Wii. The cost was the reason it decimated the PS3 and Xbox360 in sales for so long.

Maybe they'll entice buyers with a cheap console and expensive controllers the way they did with the Wii. But there's going to be some severe sticker shock when people want to start buying extra controllers. $20 Wiimote vs a $100-$150 control pad that will likely be broken the first time a frustrated gamer tosses it on the floor.

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Don't get me wrong, I am by no means a Nintendo hater. I loved my old SNES. My family has two NDS's and we had a Wii for years that was well used until it was stolen. The reason I bought a Wii was because $200 was much more affordable than a $600 PS3 and I had young kids who were more Mario oriented than Grand Theft Auto oriented. I get it...the Wii was never really meant for the hardcore/older gamer. It was meant for pre-teen/young teens and casual adult gamers.

The new Wii had better be geared to hardcore gamers because I can't see the cost of the WiiU being on par with the Wii. The cost was the reason it decimated the PS3 and Xbox360 in sales for so long.

Maybe they'll entice buyers with a cheap console and expensive controllers the way they did with the Wii. But there's going to be some severe sticker shock when people want to start buying extra controllers. $20 Wiimote vs a $100-$150 control pad that will likely be broken the first time a frustrated gamer tosses it on the floor.

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By all means I did not want to sound like you were a hater, just having a simply debate that's all. Besides, the Wii had it's shortcomings ( I haven't played it since last year) and I've been all over my PS3. Probably won't play the Wii again until Skyward Sword comes out. My idea is I want the Wii U to be successful which brings great competition where we the consumers get to reap the benefits (like the PS Vita for example). Anyhow I'm not going to judge the Wii U until well after it's launch as far as their games and pricing.

Yeah...I just wanted to state that I actually liked the Wii, but I can't see how they're going to duplicate the success of the Wii (success due mainly to how inexpensive it was) with hardened tablets for controllers that are going to artificially jack the cost way up. I'm sure they will do cool and creative things with the tablets, but I know for sure they would get easily broken by young kids almost no matter how many times you have the "take care of this" talk. Replacing a $20 wiimote is annoying...replacing a $100 tablet is going to be infuriating.

Do you see how they're going make a profit on a device with accelerometers, gyroscopes, bluetooth radio, quality buttons/dpads, more buttons than the wiimote, more protective casing than the wiimote, 6.2" touch screen, camera, dual analog pads, and a microphone? Other people on the net are estimating around $100 as well.

According to the following article, Nintendo acknowledges the multiple controllers are going to be costly:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/06/multip...e-a-cost-issue/

...in fact from this article it sounds like their answer is to have mostly single player only games...wtf. One of the biggest successes of their previous console was the fact that it was fun at parties with multiple people. IMO Nintendo's throwing away that success for the gimick of having a tablet in your hand. I don't understand what Nintendo is trying to accomplish here.

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@deucezulu22
Nice piece of spam you shill. Why is there misleading information now? Why didn't you upload an infomercial with your post?

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Or how about you add something to the discussion besides being a dick.

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Wow name calling from mister thanks for stating the obvious, but your post read like an explanation from the nintendo sales team. My apologies for the offense.