Sony to expand PSN across product line

Wow, sounds pretty big. Only good things could come out of a bigger network, no?

Don't know. Here's hoping though.

Great. why don't you simply burn your money as this is the value of digital downloads. The licence is locked to you, and you only making it a criminal offence to give this content away.

When companies give us our rights back, show us some respect & stop trying to destroy the second hand market because of their greed, maybe more people and not just naive kids will use these services, until then piracy is the only way to protect content we collect as there are no DRM locks.

lets hope sony doesn't stab their customers in the back again and close down more DRM servers making you purchase the worthless content all over again!

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/01/sony-kills-drm-store.html

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Sony kills DRM stores -- your DRM music will only last until your next upgrade
Posted by Cory Doctorow, February 1, 2008 10:52 AM | permalink
Stephen sez, "The Sony 'Connect' DRM-tastic music store is closing shop on March 31, 2008. Another failed experiment in DRM is leaving its paying customers out in the cold with soon-to-be unusable content (unless you violate the DMCA) in the form of audio files DRM locked to Sony's ATRAC media players. Yet another in a seemingly endless stream of examples of how media companies are punishing their paying, legitimate customers for the RIAA's own infuriating technological shortsightedness."

What will happen to my library (content I own)? You will continue to be able to play, manage, and transfer the music in your SonicStage library and on your ATRAC player. For music purchased via CONNECT, this means you may continue to enjoy it as usual in your current PC configuration in accordance with our terms of use.

To ensure continued access to your content, we strongly recommend that customers archive their library to audio CDs and/or make a backup using SonicStage.

Translation: You can continue to "enjoy" "your" music until you get a new PC or a new music player. And really, why would you want a new PC or a new music player ever again? Surely your three-year-old ATRAC player will never be truly obsolete!

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Great. why don't you simply burn your money as this is the value of digital downloads. The licence is locked to you, and you only making it a criminal offence to give this content away.

When companies give us our rights back, show us some respect & stop trying to destroy the second hand market because of their greed, maybe more people and not just naive kids will use these services, until then piracy is the only way to protect content we collect as there are no DRM locks.

lets hope sony doesn't stab their customers in the back again and close down more DRM servers making you purchase the worthless content all over again!

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/01/sony-kills-drm-store.html

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Sony kills DRM stores -- your DRM music will only last until your next upgrade
Posted by Cory Doctorow, February 1, 2008 10:52 AM | permalink
Stephen sez, "The Sony 'Connect' DRM-tastic music store is closing shop on March 31, 2008. Another failed experiment in DRM is leaving its paying customers out in the cold with soon-to-be unusable content (unless you violate the DMCA) in the form of audio files DRM locked to Sony's ATRAC media players. Yet another in a seemingly endless stream of examples of how media companies are punishing their paying, legitimate customers for the RIAA's own infuriating technological shortsightedness."

What will happen to my library (content I own)? You will continue to be able to play, manage, and transfer the music in your SonicStage library and on your ATRAC player. For music purchased via CONNECT, this means you may continue to enjoy it as usual in your current PC configuration in accordance with our terms of use.

To ensure continued access to your content, we strongly recommend that customers archive their library to audio CDs and/or make a backup using SonicStage.

Translation: You can continue to "enjoy" "your" music until you get a new PC or a new music player. And really, why would you want a new PC or a new music player ever again? Surely your three-year-old ATRAC player will never be truly obsolete!

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This article Is talking about PSN, not sony music. So unless you have something productive to add to the article i suggest you stop commenting. I'am really tired of all these "activists" that slander any big company in any article

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This article Is talking about PSN, not sony music. So unless you have something productive to add to the article i suggest you stop commenting. I'am really tired of all these "activists" that slander any big company in any article

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PSN is another digital distribution method with stringent DRM checks the same as sony's connect.

Sony have turned their backs on paying customers before that have unwillingly been conned by the restrictive licence agreements that sony imposes, and have lost all their paid for digital content.

My point stands until we, the customer have a guarantee that, what we purchase we can always be able to use without sony turning off the DRM checks forcing us to purchase the same content yet again from sony , PSN is a huge elephant trap & is best avoided.

But sony still wonder why people pirate material!

i assume you have never bought anything in a digital format then? Every company has the right to stop leting you download the the license you have purchased (FYI a physical game disk is also a license), Its under the contract you digitaly sign when you make an account. Also, most PSN games let you share up to 5 friends. Atleast this isnt like apple were you cant redownload your music or movies if you format your drive.

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PSN is another digital distribution method with stringent DRM checks the same as sony's connect.

Sony have turned their backs on paying customers before that have unwillingly been conned by the restrictive licence agreements that sony imposes, and have lost all their paid for digital content.

My point stands until we, the customer have a guarantee that, what we purchase we can always be able to use without sony turning off the DRM checks forcing us to purchase the same content yet again from sony , PSN is a huge elephant trap & is best avoided.

But sony still wonder why people pirate material!

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Perhaps this was true in 2006, but in 2010 DRM is a thing of the past.

I can only speak for myself of course, but so far I haven't had any problems at all with material downloaded from PSN. I've always been able to use the addons and stand-alone games I've purchased and I was able to quickly and easily transfer them from my old to my new PS3.

Originally posted by kyo28:

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I can only speak for myself of course, but so far I haven't had any problems at all with material downloaded from PSN. I've always been able to use the addons and stand-alone games I've purchased and I was able to quickly and easily transfer them from my old to my new PS3.

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http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/22/ps3-v...on-to-avoid-drm

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PS3 Video Store provides more reason to avoid DRM

It took awhile to shake out, but the DRM nastiness associated with the Sony Video Store is becoming an issue now that those tiny PS3 hard drives are beginning to fill-up. Turns out that if you delete purchased video to free-up space then you'll have to place a call to Sony customer service to authorize a one-time only re-download from your PSN download list. Not too horrible, after all, you can just swap out the hard drive yourself and then migrate all your video, right? Probably not -- as spelled out by the terms and conditions of Sony's Backup Utility:

Originally posted by sony eula:

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If you perform any of the following operations after backing up, copyright-protected video files in the backup data may not restore correctly.

* Format the hard disk
* Restore the PS3™ system
* Move copyright-protected video
* Download copyright-protected video
* Play copyright-protected video that has a time restriction for the first time

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In other words, your PS3 (and up to 3 PSPs) owns the purchased video, you do not.

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If it will make you feel better about a product that you do not own or know much about, I just replaced my HDD with a 320gig. ALL of my purchased material was nicely waiting for me in an organized manner on the PSN. Re-downloaded everything except for demo’s that I no longer wanted. It is my user account that owns the data. Should I get another PS3 and move my account to it, I can re-download to it again.
Thanks for trying to protect us though. Crisis adverted.

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Ah crap...I get enough BS messages through PSN as it is, and there is no spam filter. If they make it accessable from the PC, then they better give me an option to turn off messaging on my PS3.

hi im just new i got my ps3 on christmass feel free to add me i dont have mutch friends so feel free to add me this is my ps3 name online oh and let me know if you can psn share me the asassins creed costume on little big planet

Kaic 1999, you would be looking for this thread http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/611680 .

i wonder if this means that you can cross format multiplayer like with xbox live and games for windows live???

Originally posted by wmccusker:

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i wonder if this means that you can cross format multiplayer like with xbox live and games for windows live???

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Can it be done? Yes, in fact there is nothing currently preventing this. However, this is something that a game developer would do...not sony.

The only reason that you can't play a 360 vs PS3 vs PC game of CODMW2 is because Activision decided this (a good decision, as PC controls vs Console controls would be an unfair advantage).

Oh, and before anyone says anything about this: PSN and Microsoft networks would not be happy to be serving the competition (especialy sony...microsoft might not mind selling subscriptions to people who don't even own a 360). Therefore, if a company wanted to have cross-platform gameplay without monthly/yearly fees, they would have to run multiplayer from their own servers...this used to be the standard in PC gaming, so we know this business model works even with higher-than-console piracy rates and lower-than-console total users (including pirates).

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i'm on the fence about the PSN. On the one hand, I can legally purchase some older games that are prohibitively expensive on the used markets, and I can purchase some newer games that just don't exist anywhere else.

However, I am an archivist at heart, and it is impossible to archive a collection over which I have no control of the content. I find this to be disheartening and disturbing in an ephemeral, intangible sort of way.

All this is kind of moot, right now, though. Because PSN won't accept my credit card for no apparent reason. The service representative from Sony told me to go to Wal-Mart[sic] and buy a PSN card. I replied that if I went to a real store, I would buy a real game...

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