DDoS attack takes down more anti-piracy sites

"They have been affected by this senseless act."

Oh the horror! LOL!

Senseless? As in pouring millions of dollars to stop piracy? Haha ARRRR matey!

Then stop trying to impose absurdly ruinous fines over people doing nothing more than downloading music or films for their own private personal enjoyment.

By all means go after those who try to sell fake goods if you must, they are the actual prirates, but sharing for private use is nothing like the same.

No, senseless like spending hundreds of millions of dollars on decreasing sales and alienating customers.

If they were attacking any other targets, they everyone here would be bashing them. Instead, they are being cheered along.

Given the fact before this the article only has 4 comments, I doubt everyone here is cheering them on. Either way I'll start; clap clap .... clap?

In a way there is a point using the word senseless, the more DDOS attacks happen, the more angry these organizations get and the more they trust the public less, assuming they trusted us to begin with considering how they go about marketing, selling and in the end stealing from consumers.

Talking is done because talk is cheap, these groups and others like them do not want any fair use, or middle ground. Attacking them more is only going to strengthen their so called ill-logic of how dangerous the pirate/hacking community is. Add that to the amount of $ they *presumably* pay out to lawyers, judges and politicians; this just makes a DDOS attack ever the more pointless.

Those that want to cheer them on, go ahead, it's funny at most, and I for one do laugh; but at the end of the day this will not make things better, as big corporations watch on closely to how this battle will fold out, when each side takes action, it only puts a tighter iron grip for the other side to retaliate and in the end it will always be a vicious circle of tug-of-war until the gov't decides that these groups are too annoying to deal with anymore, or that the entire public eye is an enemy.

Given how FBI in the states wants to now tap all mobile devices of any nature, at any given time, without any just purpose in order to hopefully prevent a crime from being placed and treat a potential future crime as one even tho one has not yet occurred. I believe the latter will happen before the gov't gets pissed off enough at these groups to turn a deaf ear to them again.

Cheers,

The US plan to block any site in the world that they do not like. There is new legislation in the works...

No, I am not crazy, here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sega...i_b_739836.html

And the petition against it (for US citizens only):
http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/

I expect they have long memories and will try to track down the Anonymous people eventually.

Ahh the old Im downloading for my "own personal viewing" vs "It's not legal" debate. First off, I am not on one side or the other, I have downloaded copyrighted material. But I have done so with the willingness to accept the responsibility for my actions, Why is everyone quick to come up with an excuse for pirating what is not theirs or what they have not paid for. Most of the so called "pirates" like to talk a good game but when or if they get busted they will be full of excuses and reasons why.

This can also be flipped against the movie and music companies. They like to bitch and moan about people "stealing" their work or other peoples work, yet still do not accept their responsibility for the pirating. They still have not learned that no one wants to take a chance on buying a movie to find it wasn't even worth making. Or the fact that they charge an outrageous price for something the had already made millions on in the box office. They still haven't learned that paying 15 bucks for a CD isn't worth the 3 or 4 "good" songs on the album. Still haven't learned that .99 cents for a song is a little out there when they could.....if they wanted to.....record it off the radio like we did back in the day.

Bottom line is this they bitch because it hurts their bottom line, they bitch because they want more (as if a movie exec making 1.5 million a year isn't enough). They bitch because YOU ARE STEALING their work. The recent attacks on the anti-piracy sites are just as wrong as they are coming after us in legal battles because they couldn't get that raise they wanted.

I am not holier then thou, I am guilty of pirating copyrighted material but when it comes down to it, two wrongs don't make a right, I cannot morally justify my pirating, all I can do is accept any consequences that come from it and remember it was my fault.

Philosoweed

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I am not holier then thou, I am guilty of pirating copyrighted material but when it comes down to it, two wrongs don't make a right, I cannot morally justify my pirating, all I can do is accept any consequences that come from it and remember it was my fault.

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Well said.

Originally posted by Mysttic:

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Originally posted by Philosoweed:

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I am not holier then thou, I am guilty of pirating copyrighted material but when it comes down to it, two wrongs don't make a right, I cannot morally justify my pirating, all I can do is accept any consequences that come from it and remember it was my fault.

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Well said.

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I'm sure you'll have a smile on your face when they hit you with $100,000 damages for a dozen tunes you shared online.

You might find that how they arrived at such a figure, in a civil court case no less, to be rather subjective... rhetoric notwithstanding.


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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by Mysttic:

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Originally posted by Philosoweed:

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I am not holier then thou, I am guilty of pirating copyrighted material but when it comes down to it, two wrongs don't make a right, I cannot morally justify my pirating, all I can do is accept any consequences that come from it and remember it was my fault.

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Well said.

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I'm sure you'll have a smile on your face when they hit you with $100,000 damages for a dozen tunes you shared online.

You might find that how they arrived at such a figure, in a civil court case no less, to be rather subjective... rhetoric notwithstanding.


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i was gonna say this exactly. wait till they knock on your door with the 10.000 dollars fine for every crappy song you downloaded

But that is what he is saying.

He pirates stuff and he knows he could be hit up for the money 10 times over.

He's saying the people who pirate stuff then whinge about how they got busted doing so and then don't want to pay for anything, all because they weren't really pirating stuff merely testing it.

Most people who pirate are poor anyway, when you have cash paying the $30 for a music cd means nothing, it simply means you need to have a think about whether you want it or not.


how ever I still think they should DoS the actually movie sites and see what the RIAA do they will cry as it's not piracy and will have a major whinge and maybe think about what is going on.

Originally posted by xtago:

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But that is what he is saying.

He pirates stuff and he knows he could be hit up for the money 10 times over.

He's saying the people who pirate stuff then whinge about how they got busted doing so and then don't want to pay for anything, all because they weren't really pirating stuff merely testing it.

Most people who pirate are poor anyway, when you have cash paying the $30 for a music cd means nothing, it simply means you need to have a think about whether you want it or not.


how ever I still think they should DoS the actually movie sites and see what the RIAA do they will cry as it's not piracy and will have a major whinge and maybe think about what is going on.

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Perhaps you misread, I was referring to a civil court, where you can only sue for damages ~ which do not, in the US, have the constitutional right to impose punitive sentences, "make examples of" in an attempt to deter.... even though they do...

The "crime" of file-sharing is seen as more of a misdemeanour by the state.

If the subjectivity of the file-sharers is called into question so is the civil courts' in imposing these sort of "damages".

When I was young pirate recordings were vinyl records of bands' concerts done without consent and sold for profit. Is it just to lump file-sharers in the same category?


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it shouldn't matter if you are doing something wrong.what matters is have you got a lawyer capable of winning any court case thrown your way should you get caught.Either that or have a large stack of cash lying around to pay the fines.When you go to court its not a matter of whether you did the crime its a matter of them proving beyond resonable doubt you did it.
people bitch about everything whether its anything major or minor its in their nature.
Where the movie industry is concerned everyone is overpaid anyway.If someone offered me $250 per day and travel expenses to play a part in a movie i'd probably do it.might want a bit more if i was doing like 18hours work per day or more than 12hours a day.

15 bucks to go see amovie that sucks! not to mention. stale candy, flat soda and horrible popcorn, the price of which equals or exceeds the ticket. they should do away with movie theatres and let first run movies stream right to your home.

Originally posted by dEwMe:

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"They have been affected by this senseless act."
Oh the horror! LOL!

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I think you're missing the point, which is that in order to attack the AFACT site the instigators hit some 8,000 people who had nothing to do with AFACT. How would you like it if someone took down your website to get at someone else?

It's a bit like the Americans killing 100 innocent people in order to get one man they think might be a baddie. It's not going to get people on good terms with "Anonymous".

You mean like Americans killing over 100,000 innocent people to get one "baddie". Oh Wait they already did that.

Mexilent!

ARRRR matey!!!

Originally posted by Jemborg:

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The US plan to block any site in the world that they do not like. There is new legislation in the works...

No, I am not crazy, here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sega...i_b_739836.html

And the petition against it (for US citizens only):
http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/

I expect they have long memories and will try to track down the Anonymous people eventually.

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This is so sad.