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PlayStation CEO Tretton calls Nintendo handhelds "babysitting tools"

Written by Andre Yoskowitz @ 12 Apr 2011 12:46 User comments (25)

PlayStation CEO Tretton calls Nintendo handhelds "babysitting tools" Sony PlayStation CEO Jack Tretton was interviewed this week by Fortune and he made some interesting comments including calling Nintendo's handhelds "babysitting tools" and stating that Sony is on the verge of having its best year, ever.
Despite losing as much as $300 per PS3 console sold at launch in 2006, Tretton says Sony is set to have its "best year ever" thanks to the expensive tech inside the powerful console, including a Blu-ray drive, CELL processor and Nvidia GPU.

Sony has sold over 49 million PS3s, to date, slightly behind the Xbox 360 and its one-year head start at 53 million but well behind the Nintendo Wii at over 85 million.



Into the future, Tretton believes the PS3's hardware will help it remain strongly successful:

If you're really going to sustain technology for a decade, you have to be cutting edge when you launch a platform. Here we are 4 years into the Playstation 3, and it's just hitting its stride. We'll enjoy a long downhill roll behind it because the technology that was so cutting edge in 2006 is extremely relevant today and is conspicuously absent in our competition.

They're starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond. I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. Why would I buy a gaming system without a hard drive in it? How does this thing scale? Motion gaming is cute, but if I can only wave my arms six inches, how does this really feel like I'm doing true accurate motion gaming?


Although the PSP has been handily destroyed in the handheld gaming market, Tretton still took some shots at the DS:

Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool, something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting twenty-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that.


The DS line has sold 146 million units compared to Sony's 67 million PSPs. Furthermore, Nintendo has just released their 3DS handheld while Sony expects to release the NGP (PSP2) by the end of the year boasting cutting edge specs, just like the PS3 had at launch.

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25 user comments

112.4.2011 13:20
lissenup3
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The arrogance of Sony just pisses me off.

First, XBox games, controller and console are just better. The hardware on PS3 might be more advanced and "better" but who F'ing cares when the PS4 comes out and causes PS3 to become obsolete when in fact the PS3 was designed for the long haul and future this and future that........blah blah blah.

Sony may "slightly" behind the sales of XBox but only because of the simple fact that too many losers with too much time on their hands and money burning an F'ing hole in their pockets buy BOTH consoles for GOD only knows what reason?!?!?!?!?!?!

Sony needs to come down to reality and get off their F'ing high chair.

212.4.2011 13:25

Microsoft guys come out with smack talk all the time but when Sony do it its huge news double standards. @lissenup3 grow up son lol.

312.4.2011 13:31

Even if they are babsitting tools that even more of a reason to get them. My lil nephew has one and once thats in his hands we dont have to worry about any disturbances when we go out or any nagging. Plus there are alot of educational games on there. So I think its a great gaming system even if I will never buy one for myself. @lissenup3 calm down dude its not that serious...

412.4.2011 13:40

Quote:
Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool, something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting twenty-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that.

Any self-respecting twenty-something isn't going to be playing games. A normal twenty-something might though. Also, Nintendo's 'babysitting tools' sell better than Sueny's stuff because CHILDREN play games.

512.4.2011 14:08
CookieMonster
Unverified new user

Yeah at age 20 something, handheld games barely keep your attention, you may as well just play a game off your phone like plants vs zombies. I don't know why sony is talking big. Nintendo has dominated the handheld gaming market for quite some time and they will continue to do so. They barely have half the sales of the Wii but are trying to be smart and critique it.

612.4.2011 18:10

Wither or not it's a babysitting tool, it's making bank for Nintendo; so at the end of the day they'll be laughing.

712.4.2011 21:30

I don't think Jack Tretton is denying the fact Nintendo is making bank or the fact that the DS is a huge success for Nintendo. Of course the DS outsells the PSP. My son has a DS and he takes it with him in the car all the time. Do I play it? NO! In my opinion it is a great system for kids. That should come as no surprise since that is the market it's made for. Sony I believe is marketing to a different crowd. Better specs, higher price, but that is expected.

812.4.2011 23:15

Originally posted by lissenup3:
The arrogance of Sony just pisses me off.

First, XBox games, controller and console are just better. The hardware on PS3 might be more advanced and "better" but who F'ing cares when the PS4 comes out and causes PS3 to become obsolete when in fact the PS3 was designed for the long haul and future this and future that........blah blah blah.

Sony may "slightly" behind the sales of XBox but only because of the simple fact that too many losers with too much time on their hands and money burning an F'ing hole in their pockets buy BOTH consoles for GOD only knows what reason?!?!?!?!?!?!

Sony needs to come down to reality and get off their F'ing high chair.
I switched from xbox to PS3 when I was faced with replacing my fourth console. The next time Microsoft releases a console I hope they take the time to build it right.

912.4.2011 23:36

Umm, did he just insult potential customers? I'm twenty plus years an would not mind having a DS or PSP anywhere in public, yet I respect myself.

1013.4.2011 01:10

I wouldn't want a DS or a 3DS...and it isn't even the hardware; it is the selection of games...they are designed for kids. Sure, some are written so almost anyone can get some enjoyment from them, but they are so bland because of this that they hold no appeal for me...and they are usually the 50th game in a series that stopped being fun after the third one...so that does not help either.

That said, there is really only one PSP game that I considered buying a PSP for...if it were not for the fact that the PSP is made by Sony, I would have one right now, and I would probably regret buying it for just one game.

BTW...the 3DS is certainly not just for babysitting; it is also useful for detecting certain vision disorders in small children. It is not often that a commercial video game can be used as a medical tool without any modifications.

1113.4.2011 05:56
emugamer
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Jack seems to like hearing the sound of his own voice. Sony is dead to me. Only Sony hardware that can be stripped and raped is allowed in my house. Nintendo is much more relevant to me. My kids love their DS's. My Wii allows me to get onto Netflix, even thought I choose not to update the console. As far as I know, Nintendo doesn't attack their customers.

1213.4.2011 06:15

Originally posted by emugamer:
...As far as I know, Nintendo doesn't attack their customers.

Well, that depends on how you look at it. They also purposely LIED to consumers the first few years the Wii was available that there were shortages of them while they had warehouses packed, just to artificially drive up demand and hype.

1313.4.2011 11:48

@emugamer why is it when someone tries to protect whats there IP they get attacked what did they do wrong? plus your loss its a good gaming machine.

1413.4.2011 13:53

Originally posted by KillerBug:
...That said, there is really only one PSP game that I considered buying a PSP for...if it were not for the fact that the PSP is made by Sony, I would have one right now, and I would probably regret buying it for just one game...
You know you can buy a product without supporting the manufacturer KB. Buy a used PS and the game as well. Then your money does not go to the maker nor the developer of the game you sooo want to play.

1513.4.2011 21:29

Hahaha nice I have grown tired of playing games that involve a lot of thinking though like adventure games. I don't plan on buying the 3DS but maybe the NGP.

1613.4.2011 23:10

Originally posted by Oner:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
...That said, there is really only one PSP game that I considered buying a PSP for...if it were not for the fact that the PSP is made by Sony, I would have one right now, and I would probably regret buying it for just one game...
You know you can buy a product without supporting the manufacturer KB. Buy a used PS and the game as well. Then your money does not go to the maker nor the developer of the game you sooo want to play.
If I buy a used PSP, that is one less used PSP for someone else, and one more new PSP that someone will buy somewhere. Plus, the game is made by Sony as well...and the used market works the same for the games (or at least for popular games). IDK...I might buy a few dead PSPs for cheap and see if I can make one working unit from them; that wouldn't help sony profits any...

1714.4.2011 06:18
emugamer
Inactive

Originally posted by brockie:
@emugamer why is it when someone tries to protect whats there IP they get attacked what did they do wrong? plus your loss its a good gaming machine.
It's an excellent gaming machine. I have 2. But I took them offline and installed custom firmware.

They didn't get attacked. Modifying a machine is not "attacking." The solution is easy. Ban idiots who try to game on the PSN with custom firmware. I can live without online gaming, but access to the store, where I spent at least a couple thousand dollars over the past 3 years is them putting a choke hold on my freedom to do what I want with my machine. Assuming that I am automatically a pirate if I have cfw and spying on my machine is invasion of privacy. Attaching Netflix to the PSN, so that I can't use it unless I have their latest ofw is an outrage. I can go on an on.

They lie to their customers (OtherOS), they lie to the courts (geohot - read the case history for yourself). They abuse the legal system to get their way. They are raiding developers homes and having their equipment seized - the ones that are strictly working on bringing Linux back to the PS3.

Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Well, that depends on how you look at it. They also purposely LIED to consumers the first few years the Wii was available that there were shortages of them while they had warehouses packed, just to artificially drive up demand and hype.
I hear ya. But it does depend on how you look at it, and it probably happens with a lot of manufacturers a lot more than we know. To me, that's harmless compared to how Sony treats it's customers who have invested money in their system.

1814.4.2011 11:16
ps3lvanub
Inactive

Originally posted by emugamer:
Originally posted by brockie:
@emugamer why is it when someone tries to protect whats there IP they get attacked what did they do wrong? plus your loss its a good gaming machine.
It's an excellent gaming machine. I have 2. But I took them offline and installed custom firmware.

They didn't get attacked. Modifying a machine is not "attacking." The solution is easy. Ban idiots who try to game on the PSN with custom firmware. I can live without online gaming, but access to the store, where I spent at least a couple thousand dollars over the past 3 years is them putting a choke hold on my freedom to do what I want with my machine. Assuming that I am automatically a pirate if I have cfw and spying on my machine is invasion of privacy. Attaching Netflix to the PSN, so that I can't use it unless I have their latest ofw is an outrage. I can go on an on.

They lie to their customers (OtherOS), they lie to the courts (geohot - read the case history for yourself). They abuse the legal system to get their way. They are raiding developers homes and having their equipment seized - the ones that are strictly working on bringing Linux back to the PS3.

Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Well, that depends on how you look at it. They also purposely LIED to consumers the first few years the Wii was available that there were shortages of them while they had warehouses packed, just to artificially drive up demand and hype.
I hear ya. But it does depend on how you look at it, and it probably happens with a lot of manufacturers a lot more than we know. To me, that's harmless compared to how Sony treats it's customers who have invested money in their system.
Sorry to quote such a big post but it's QFT.

Looking at what Tretton is saying makes me want to rip his testicles off, throw them into a fire before his eyes and then make him swallow a pint of ammonia.

Nintendo might be the lesser corporation that doesn't do as well but as I recall , like emugamer said, Nintendo don't go completely commando on people who choose to do what they want to their own consoles. Tretton also carts on about the PS3 being able to sustain for 10 years while Nintendo can't do that because it's hardware is basically 3 years in the past and sh*t (Both his words and mine, but the 3DS doesn't fit this IMO, because it is pretty damn cool :) ). OK, but let's have a look at Pokemon, a game franchise which has been going strong since 1996. How many franchises have you got like that Sony?

1914.4.2011 19:15

LOL @ lissenup3.
You totally made no sense.
The PS3's technical specs are much better, The PS3's processor is better, and the graphics card is slightly faster, that's fact.
The failure rate (1%) is significantly lower than the 360 (33%)fact.
Online gaming is free, fact.
Can put any HDD you want in it not one that is overpriced by Microsoft.
And you can have all that for the same price as a 360. Everything else you listed as what makes the 360 better (i.e. controller, games, console) are all just your personal opinion not a fact. And really how can you say a console with a 33% failure rate and a dated standard DVD drive is better than one with a 1% failure rate and HD Blu-Ray drive?
I think you need to come down to reality and get off your 360 fanboy high chair. You're rant was totally pointless.


2014.4.2011 19:22

Quote:
ps3lvanub -
look at Pokemon, a game franchise which has been going strong since 1996. How many franchises have you got like that Sony?

Gran Turismo
Tekken
Metal Gear Series
Grand Theft Auto

Just a few off the top of my head.

2115.4.2011 02:52

Rumor: Next Nintendo console to debut at E3 2011, may outpace 360 and PS3

http://t.co/M3NswA6
http://cnet.co/g7YTfz

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 15 Apr 2011 @ 3:15

2215.4.2011 06:41

Originally posted by ps3lvanub:
Originally posted by emugamer:
Originally posted by brockie:
@emugamer why is it when someone tries to protect whats there IP they get attacked what did they do wrong? plus your loss its a good gaming machine.
It's an excellent gaming machine. I have 2. But I took them offline and installed custom firmware.

They didn't get attacked. Modifying a machine is not "attacking." The solution is easy. Ban idiots who try to game on the PSN with custom firmware. I can live without online gaming, but access to the store, where I spent at least a couple thousand dollars over the past 3 years is them putting a choke hold on my freedom to do what I want with my machine. Assuming that I am automatically a pirate if I have cfw and spying on my machine is invasion of privacy. Attaching Netflix to the PSN, so that I can't use it unless I have their latest ofw is an outrage. I can go on an on.

They lie to their customers (OtherOS), they lie to the courts (geohot - read the case history for yourself). They abuse the legal system to get their way. They are raiding developers homes and having their equipment seized - the ones that are strictly working on bringing Linux back to the PS3.

Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Well, that depends on how you look at it. They also purposely LIED to consumers the first few years the Wii was available that there were shortages of them while they had warehouses packed, just to artificially drive up demand and hype.
I hear ya. But it does depend on how you look at it, and it probably happens with a lot of manufacturers a lot more than we know. To me, that's harmless compared to how Sony treats it's customers who have invested money in their system.
Sorry to quote such a big post but it's QFT.

Looking at what Tretton is saying makes me want to rip his testicles off, throw them into a fire before his eyes and then make him swallow a pint of ammonia.

Nintendo might be the lesser corporation that doesn't do as well but as I recall , like emugamer said, Nintendo don't go completely commando on people who choose to do what they want to their own consoles. Tretton also carts on about the PS3 being able to sustain for 10 years while Nintendo can't do that because it's hardware is basically 3 years in the past and sh*t (Both his words and mine, but the 3DS doesn't fit this IMO, because it is pretty damn cool :) ). OK, but let's have a look at Pokemon, a game franchise which has been going strong since 1996. How many franchises have you got like that Sony?
I can't agree with that. I paid for a system with online gaming and OtherOS support...both on ONE system. Blocking me from going online just because I have a CFW that allows me to keep using the OtherOS feature is BS.

I realize that there are cheaters online, and that some of them use CFW-only cheats (most just use glitches that the devs don't bother to patch, and they do so from OFW 3.60). However, that is no justification to block CFW users. The same kinds of cheats are possible with PC games because PCs are essentially jailbroken from the factory...but the industry has adapted itself to fighting the cheaters...not simply blocking all PCs because cheating is theoretically possible.

2315.4.2011 14:26

Originally posted by KillerBug:
...I paid for a system with online gaming and OtherOS support...both on ONE system. Blocking me from going online just because I have a CFW that allows me to keep using the OtherOS feature is BS...
And yet you hold Sony accountable for what GeoHot is responsible for...that just doesn't make sense to me. Sorry. GeoHot is the one that I blame for the removal/loss of my OtherOS with YDL & ZeroGame.

2418.4.2011 10:28

About 80% of PS3 Games run at the Full Resolution of 720p. Every Single Game on the X-Box 360 runs a 1080p. There are only a few games for the PS3 that run at 1080p. Is is due to the Lazyness of the Developers? or is it due to the Limitations of the PS3 despite having 50 GB worth of Blu-Ray Storage compared to 8 GB of DVD Storage for X-Box 360? I really want to know. Until Sony address why there is no 1080p for every PS3 Game, I don't want them claiming their system is the best.

2518.4.2011 13:42

Originally posted by Emudude1963:
About 80% of PS3 Games run at the Full Resolution of 720p. Every Single Game on the X-Box 360 runs a 1080p. There are only a few games for the PS3 that run at 1080p. Is is due to the Lazyness of the Developers? or is it due to the Limitations of the PS3 despite having 50 GB worth of Blu-Ray Storage compared to 8 GB of DVD Storage for X-Box 360? I really want to know. Until Sony address why there is no 1080p for every PS3 Game, I don't want them claiming their system is the best.
You are misinformed. The 360 UPSCALES it's games to 1080p. BIG difference between upscaled and native resolution. There are not that many NATIVE 1080p titles on the 360 at all. Please read through the links below and do some research (Ctrl F search 1920x1080) before spreading/saying more misinformation ~

360 Native 1080p = 5

PS3 Native 1080p = 31

There might be a small handful of titles not added/updated (to both sides) but it wouldn't change the outcome to be any different...thus the point is the same.

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